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Andy80

Member Since: 31 May 2013
Location: Essex
Posts: 484

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue

Defiantly meet up in 2019,

Working towards Carry on camping!

27th Dec 2018 6:42pm

defender9

Member Since: 12 Mar 2016
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 1613

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

My 86 bought in 1988 cost me £150, prices hadn’t moved up much in 20 years

27th Dec 2018 6:47pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16876

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

^^^ Good value in 88, depending on co Digimon I think the most I ever paid for a drivable 80" was £300, my 86" cost me a whopping £500 in 1985. In all cases suspect that it was a better investment than putting the money in the bank. Even though one of the 80"s needs a new chassis, the old rotten one is probably worth more than £300. It's a strange world.

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27th Dec 2018 7:41pm

lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1285

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

blackwolf wrote:

Before anyone points out the obvious incongruities, it didn't take me long after buying it to realise that it was not exactly the 1953 vehicle I had been lead to believe. There are many details in the photo above which reveal that it was actually assembled from two 80" vehicles, a 1953 example and a 1950 example. How many non-1953 anomalies can you spot?

Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like it has the early forward swinging narrow front springs to me.
And by 53, weren't there external door handles?

27th Dec 2018 7:42pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16876

Spot on, on both points. It has narrow front springs, no outside door handles, bulkhead sidelights, and the early rear tub support, all from an 0610 series chassis (actually an adjacent chassis number to a Rolls B40 vehicle), and of course it has the chassis itself. The rest (and reg) are '53, including the spot-welded front wings.

Something of a chimera really.

Since it needs a new chassis at the moment my intention is to put a correct 3610 chassis back under it.

27th Dec 2018 7:54pm

defender9

Member Since: 12 Mar 2016
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 1613

As well as the door bottoms without the door handles, the door tops are early too and definitely not off a 53.

I’ll get my coat.......

28th Dec 2018 12:24am

lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1285

What about the axles and gearbox Blackwolf? Any chance they are from a 50? I spotted the freewheel hubs so guessed unlikely to be a freewheel gearbox with tracta joints in the front axle. Purely from a value point of view is it worth considering reregistering it as a 1950? If this is possible.

28th Dec 2018 10:32am

defender9

Member Since: 12 Mar 2016
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 1613

Good spot on the FWH although all 80’s had Tracta Joints

28th Dec 2018 10:54am

lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1285

I've learned something there defender9. Thanks.
I had wrongly assumed they dropped the tracta joints when they dropped the freewheel 4x4 system on the later 80's.

28th Dec 2018 11:32am

defender9

Member Since: 12 Mar 2016
Location: Fylde Coast
Posts: 1613

blackwolf wrote:
The Land-Rover that I have owned longest in my collection is my first S1 80", which IIRC I bought in 1979 or possibly 1980, a mere 39 years ago. A youngster by comparison to Slideywindows.

Mind you, as a 1953 model the vehicle was only 26 years old then, so the equivalent of a 1992 vehicle now.

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Before anyone points out the obvious incongruities, it didn't take me long after buying it to realise that it was not exactly the 1953 vehicle I had been lead to believe. There are many details in the photo above which reveal that it was actually assembled from two 80" vehicles, a 1953 example and a 1950 example. How many non-1953 anomalies can you spot?

I like it and who cares if it’s built from more than one vehicle, you bought it in good faith and have obviously cherished it all those years. Many of the so called concours Series Ones have been built up using a myriad of parts which were not part of the original vehicle.

28th Dec 2018 3:13pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16876

Engine and box are '53 (siamese bore 2.0l, dog clutch transfer box, although presently it has a later spread-bore 2.0l fitted), front axle is '50, rear '53. When it finally goes through the workshop it will emerge as a '53 with the correct chassis number for the V5 and registration number. The existing 1950 chassis has rotted severely over the rear half, and it makes more sense for me to put a new chassis and sell the '50 chassis to someone who needs one and has better welding skills than I do.

I do have a spare 1950 1600cc engine and freewheel gearbox, though, so perhaps I could legitimately rebuild the one into two.

28th Dec 2018 7:02pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16876

defender9 wrote:

I like it and who cares if it’s built from more than one vehicle, you bought it in good faith and have obviously cherished it all those years. Many of the so called concours Series Ones have been built up using a myriad of parts which were not part of the original vehicle.

Thank you! It was my first LR and over the years I have had a huge amount of fun with it, and learned a lot about driving and mechanicing too. Of all the LRs I've owned it is probably the one I am most attached to.

28th Dec 2018 7:07pm

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