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TopQ1967



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Netherlands 2012 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Buckingham Blue
Lost traction...
Hi

Came back after a 1.000 Km trip this morning. 2 Km before my home address in a bent I lost complete traction.
At first I thought someone next to me shifted coincidentally the diff leveller. But It was in its normal position. I engaged the difflock and could drive on.

Tried the normal position this afternoon again, but nothing is happening.

What could be wrong?
Post #741587 21st Nov 2018 4:44pm
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geobloke



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So... Normal position and no drive, difflock engaged and drive. Non mention of grinding noises so unlikely to be CV joints, diffs or propshafts.

Could be;

    Half shaft striped its splines
    Half shaft snapped
    Flange striped its splines


Any of these could have gone on any wheel. With transfer box not in difflock and hand brake off (chock wheels). Jack a wheel off the ground, rotate it looking for non-normal movement or grinding noises. The propshaft should rotate as well, so if it doesn't you have found your problem.

Replacing the half shaft and/or drive flanges are an easy DIY job and shouldn't take more than an hour to do.

Let us know how you get on.
Post #741588 21st Nov 2018 5:05pm
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blackwolf



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The quickest way to diagnose is (with the help of an assistant) apply the footbrake firmly, make sure that the diff is NOT locked and that the handbrake is released, engage a gear and let in the clutch. Get the assistant to tell you which propshaft (front or rear) is rotating. Whichever is rotating is at the end with the failed halfshaft.

It is most likely to be a failure of the rear offside (right hand side) halfshaft/drive flange splines.
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custom90



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^^^^ When I swapped my rear halfshafts over and flanges, it was the one that Blackwolf mentions above that was most worn of them all.
It also isn't always easy to see how much wear there is with the flange in situ, of course also depend sir you have two piece DM's or single piece. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #741594 21st Nov 2018 5:59pm
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TopQ1967



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blackwolf wrote:
The quickest way to diagnose is (with the help of an assistant) apply the footbrake firmly, make sure that the diff is NOT locked and that the handbrake is released, engage a gear and let in the clutch. Get the assistant to tell you which propshaft (front or rear) is rotating. Whichever is rotating is at the end with the failed halfshaft.

It is most likely to be a failure of the rear offside (right hand side) halfshaft/drive flange splines.



It is unfortunately the front Sad

Is it possible to remove the front propshaft and drive with it localy until the parts are in?
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blackwolf



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Possible but not advisable since there will still be rotating parts in the front axle and therefore there remains the possibility of one or both front wheels locking solid. I would only drive it in this state to get home, or if my life depended on it, and then at reduced speed.
Post #745710 14th Dec 2018 6:36pm
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TopQ1967



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Thank you. think somting is broken in the joint. I am to afraid to damage even more. So ordered new HD halfshafts, joints and air lockers at Ashcroft, for an upgrade Smile
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BenB8man



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Damn, that's certainly going to solve the problem! Quite the repair job! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Post #745967 16th Dec 2018 12:17pm
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TopQ1967



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this moring I started to look at the problem..
when I came in it was Obvious where to start...



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there was no axle oilsseal and almost no oi/grease.



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The broken bearingcage parts damedged the housing..



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the scratsches are not in the sealway.. what do you think, ditch it?



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New CV joint..
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williamthedog



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You got off fairly lucky there. New swivel and job done. Thumbs Up
Post #747979 29th Dec 2018 10:23pm
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