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CBearRun

Member Since: 03 Jun 2018
Location: Clydebank
Posts: 20

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Epsom Green

Wiper Advice for an amateur!

Hi all,

my first post on Defender2 and it is very necessary.

A while back my wipers started to stick a little but it wasnt any hassle but last night on my drive home in the rain, dark and on the motorway my wipers packed in altogether!
I want to try this repair myself as have looked at the various issues it could be and to save money.

Looking to hear what the more experienced think will be the issue. I know this wont be a clean and simple answer.

So my wipers will slightly move downwards when switched on but that is all, when I turn them on I can hear the motor running from the non-glovebox area so know it still runs.
Do you think this could be a park switch issue or perhaps need a new set of wheels for the wipers?

I am a novice to any car repairs but obviously want to learn to keep my landy running at its best. Biggest thing I have done so far was attach my rear ladder for my rack.
I drive a 2007 Defender 110 CSW got 81000 miles.

any help would be great!!

11th Nov 2018 2:35pm

WindyJ

Member Since: 18 Oct 2018
Location: France
Posts: 190

First thing is to check the relay - it’s the central red one in the fuse box by your knee. That’s most likely the culprit. While you are at it swap for a VW99 relay, about £10 on eBay and one of the best upgrades you can make!

11th Nov 2018 2:49pm

CBearRun

Member Since: 03 Jun 2018
Location: Clydebank
Posts: 20

Excellent WindyJ i'll start with that. Much easier that removing the dash!! if it isnt that i'll add the upgrade to the overall fix.

Thanks for the advice

11th Nov 2018 2:53pm

sfrankland

Member Since: 05 Aug 2018
Location: essex
Posts: 29

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Indus Silver

WindyJ wrote:
First thing is to check the relay - it’s the central red one in the fuse box by your knee. That’s most likely the culprit. While you are at it swap for a VW99 relay, about £10 on eBay and one of the best upgrades you can make!

I was just wondering what makes this a good upgrade? I may do it myself and I’m always looking for ways to improve the defender

11th Nov 2018 2:59pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

It gives you variable speed intermittent wipers.

11th Nov 2018 3:06pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

The VW99 relay gives you a variable intermittent wipe function. Darren

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11th Nov 2018 3:08pm

sfrankland

Member Since: 05 Aug 2018
Location: essex
Posts: 29

Cupboard wrote:
It gives you variable speed intermittent wipers.

Ah i see. so i guess i would need to change the wiper stork to be able to change the speed?

11th Nov 2018 3:10pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

No, the function is entirely within the relay. Here you go, have a read of this:

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic6205.html?highlight=vw99 Darren

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11th Nov 2018 3:13pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5413

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

No, you use the same stalk. You just program the relay each time you use it.

Turn on intermittent wipers
They wipe
Turn off wipers, until enough rain on screen
Turn on intermittent wipers

They will now wipe at the time of the period that you had them off for in the above process

11th Nov 2018 3:14pm

sfrankland

Member Since: 05 Aug 2018
Location: essex
Posts: 29

LandRoverAnorak wrote:
No, the function is entirely within the relay. Here you go, have a read of this:

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic6205.html?highlight=vw99

Thats great thanks a lot for the link.

11th Nov 2018 3:16pm

sfrankland

Member Since: 05 Aug 2018
Location: essex
Posts: 29

landy andy wrote:
No, you use the same stalk. You just program the relay each time you use it.

Turn on intermittent wipers
They wipe
Turn off wipers, until enough rain on screen
Turn on intermittent wipers

They will now wipe at the time of the period that you had them off for in the above process

Excellent thanks for the advise. ill get one on order!

11th Nov 2018 3:16pm

WindyJ

Member Since: 18 Oct 2018
Location: France
Posts: 190

It’s completely intuitive to use too....you won’t be trying to remember how it works or anything and you also get variable control of the wash wipe i.e. the longer you press squirt the longer the wipers stay on and vise versa, also water before wiper movement which is much better.

11th Nov 2018 4:38pm

Balvaig

Member Since: 19 Feb 2016
Location: Fife
Posts: 719

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey

It might be as "simple" as corrosion at the wiper arms. If you lift the rubber cover at the base of the wiper arms you can see the mechanism. You could well see rust at the shaft. Worth spraying a little WD40 onto the shaft, and wiggle the arms. This might free the mechanism. If it does, then after a few wipes you should properly lubricate with silicone spray lubricant. Don't forget to reseat the rubber seal.
Hope it is as simple as this. Otherwise a bigger job altogether. Plenty of threads on the site explain the bigger faults/repair.

11th Nov 2018 4:59pm

Badger110

Member Since: 06 Feb 2018
Location: South hams
Posts: 1025

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Buckingham Blue

For both to stop working, I would think the issue is at the motor

I’ve just removed the dash on mine and you can see the motor on the left, the movable ‘chain’ sits within the silver tube that goes across the dash

Click image to enlarge

The mechanism in the motor would be similar to a train steam engine wheel with rod attached and as the motor turns, the chain is pushed and pulled along the tube.

At 2 points the motor arms are attached to spindles which are attached to large perforated edged discs which catch the chain and thus cause the wipers to move back and forth.

Click image to enlarge

It sounds like the chain has disconnected from the motor mechanism.

If it is this then it’s a partial dash removal if you can disconnect the chain from the motor...

Click image to enlarge

if not the whole lot needs to come out

Welcome to owning a defender!

11th Nov 2018 6:18pm

CBearRun

Member Since: 03 Jun 2018
Location: Clydebank
Posts: 20

Thanks for all the advice folks!

At least with this knowledge I can go in looking for what you have said and perhaps find the issue rather that thinking its one thing, getting there and its not. I would have been lost then.

I think the new relay sounds like a great upgrade and will be doing that anyway!

Oh dont worry Badger110, had this for a few years now but only just starting to attempt the work myself rather than pay a garage. More welcome to parenthood of trying to find cheap alternatives

11th Nov 2018 11:50pm

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