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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
2020 110 DC mule undressed...
The marvelous x-ray app on my iphone Whistle has managed to remove some of the disguise from one of Land Rover´s long wheelbase mules.

Thought you might be interested.

Exposed is the belt line (lower edge of the side windows) and the classic Land Rover stepped shoulder. The power bulge replaces what used to be the separate clam shell bonnet of old. The air intakes and headlamps bear similarity to those of the DC100.

The side glass is enclosed in stamped metal framework, as on the old Defender. Most likely under the disguise, it is painted matt black to match the windscreen frame.

Black plastic wheel arch frames, as on other RR products, protect the paintwork, and have the signature notch at top dead centre (pointless, but sweet).
The overall proportion, angle of windscreen and side glass, and some of the details look similar to Discovery 4/5.

to be honest, i think the vehicle isn´t a DC. More likely (because of the fixed rear door and glass visible in the rear view) it is the station wagon. However the disguise gives me no clues as to how the rear side glass would look, so I made a DC out of it.


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 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s,
Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons
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Wild Card 90



Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
To compare, here´s what i worked from.


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 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s,
Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons
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Huttopia



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D4 shrunk in the wash.
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Wild Card 90



Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Here´s an obvious shot at what the 110SW could look like. simple matter-of-fact side glass. No Discovery swings or swoops in the C-pillar.
Having looked more carefully at the various pictures, I reckon the side window frames and windscreen frame will be body colour and not black. I like the more utilitarian approach. Honest and back-to-basics.



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 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s,
Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons
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Chugga90



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DC100 or what ever it was years ago!
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discomog



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Location: Notts/Lincs Border
Posts: 2494

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I hate to disagree with Wild Card 90 but no way is the new Defender "Going back to basics". Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S
Morgan Plus 8
Post #744827 9th Dec 2018 5:08pm
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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
But it looks like I can balance a mug of tea on the bonnet if not the wing? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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Slideywindows



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And of course, if it doesn't pass this test, it isn't a Defender.




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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Thumbs Up Whistle Rolling with laughter 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s,
Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons
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Ramajama



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Re: 2020 110 DC mule undressed...
Wild Card 90 wrote:
The marvelous x-ray app on my iphone Whistle has managed to remove some of the disguise from one of Land Rover´s long wheelbase mules.

Thought you might be interested.

Exposed is the belt line (lower edge of the side windows) and the classic Land Rover stepped shoulder. The power bulge replaces what used to be the separate clam shell bonnet of old. The air intakes and headlamps bear similarity to those of the DC100.

The side glass is enclosed in stamped metal framework, as on the old Defender. Most likely under the disguise, it is painted matt black to match the windscreen frame.

Black plastic wheel arch frames, as on other RR products, protect the paintwork, and have the signature notch at top dead centre (pointless, but sweet).
The overall proportion, angle of windscreen and side glass, and some of the details look similar to Discovery 4/5.

to be honest, i think the vehicle isn´t a DC. More likely (because of the fixed rear door and glass visible in the rear view) it is the station wagon. However the disguise gives me no clues as to how the rear side glass would look, so I made a DC out of it.


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Good job! But I think the belt line will be more rounded and the hood bulge will be wider towards the windshield and will open in the same fashion as the old Defender. I think this will be much more modern retro than LR is letting on. But I could be. Wrong. LOL!! 2018 RAM Power Wagon (American Muscle)
2003 Land Rover Discovery II HSE 7 (Still deciding on its role)
2004 Land Rover Discovery II SE (British Steel...& aluminum)
2015 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE Lux (Soccer Mom car)
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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Thanks Rj. I wasn´t sure sure about the hood bulge, so you might well be right. The rear edge of the hood is well hidden on the mules. The belt line may be softer than I´ve shown. There isn´t much more to extract from the photos, but I felt it worthwhile to get a feeling of the proportions of the car. There are a good number of cues from the Defender, without it becoming a modern replica of it´s ageing self (which is what the Mercedes G became).

I won´t comment here on the price or the technology, as that has been covered elsewhere, but i am starting to believe that LR design may well have used the long gestation time (since DC100) well. The new vehicle will be far enough away from their mainstream vehicles, and very much identifiable as the workhorse of the brand.

What they need to do is sort out their quality and reliability. That alone would make them popular with the customers they need. The ones who primarily want a workhorse. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s,
Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons
Post #744924 10th Dec 2018 6:39am
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OsloBlue



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
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Can’t we just have a stretched D4? This looks likes it’s made by Dacia or something. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html
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