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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
Rear axles
I'm going to recondition my rear axle and rather than disable the vehicle I have sourced an old drum-braked one to temporarily replace it.

Are all axles created equal or did some come from the factory with different ratios...etc? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
For all that effort of removing fitting and the same again would it not be easier to just overhaul the replacement axle? Depending on what work you plan on doing it doesn’t take too long to replace most parts on an axle.

There are some difference in axles over the models and time periods but I’m not sure on ratios of that era. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
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derbywill



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I guess it depends if the OP vehicle has has a disc brake axle fitted out of a Discovery, but if not I would do as Mash recommends and do the temporary axle up.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
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LandRoverAnorak



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The axle diff ratios are all the same. It's the transfer box ratios that differ on various coil sprung LR's. Darren

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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
I wanted to retain the original axles so all the numbers match

The current axle is disc but the temporary axle is drum, would that cause any issues?

LandRoverAnorak wrote:
The axle diff ratios are all the same. It's the transfer box ratios that differ on various coil sprung LR's.


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1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
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derbywill



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I think ( but do stand to be corrected) that 200Tdi’s where drum brake as standard.
The only issue I see you may have is if you have alloys they don’t fit the drum brake axle without modification or spacers.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
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LandRoverAnorak



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Some very late 200's (like Kits') received the disk brake axle. Darren

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^^^^ Agree. My first new 90 was a 200Tdi, drum braked. A friend of mine bought one about 6 month later (factory soft top with rear roll cage... very nice!) and that had discs.
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
The axle I was going to buy turned out to be duff

A friend of mine has a Disco 1 rear axle, however I don't know if it's from a 200 tdi/300 tdi or a v8. Are they all the same ratio/fitment? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
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rallysteve



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Could either be a 10 or 24spline unit which as long as you get the whole unit wont be an issue. The diff may have the three pin rubber donut input though which will be a pain as you would need to swap the input flange and spacer to use it on a defender. All of the discovery rear axles are disc braked too.

Ratios etc are not an issue. Many fit disco rear axles complete to upgrade drum braked 90s to disc.
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
Okay thats good to know, are there any specific models which didn't have the rubber donut?

I've just had a look on eBay and there's a Salisbury axle from a td5 not too far from me, worth the extra cash? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
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rallysteve



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From what i recall pre facelift (200) discovery has a normal drive flange and facelift (300) has the donut. Doesnt always ring true though as i have had a late 98' V8 without the donut.

Salisbury wont fit a 90 without modification due to larger springs and longer diff so your standard prop wont fit.

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I think October 92 was when they started fitting discs in the rear.
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