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Greyman110



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MSS small window grills
Can anyone tell me how the rear small window grills fit please? Just picked up a second hand set so would like an idea of what's needed before I start pulling the trim off.

Also I'll be putting up some used sides and a rear (non-brake light) in the for sale section soon if anyone's interested.

Thanks
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donmacn



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It might depend on what car you have, whether there are already holes drilled to take the lower mounting bolts.

I fitted a pair easily enough - once I'd had the 'doh' or 'eureka' moment - depending on your point of view. When I first put one up against the window, I thought: "how am I going to get my hand in there to tighten the bolts?" But of course I was using the offside guard in the nearside window. If you try it, you'll see what I mean.

I think I put some pics on my 'tinkering' thread below. (Edit - yep, just a couple, on the 3rd page, but might be helpful)

Basically, the top linings need to be out to give access to the upper roof to side bolts. These should line up nicely with the upper bracket for the guard. If your car has existing holes under the window, then they should match up too. Mine didn't so I had to fit the top ones; mark where the holes should go at the bottom; remove the top ones again; drill; refit.

Not at all difficult once I'd realised they were sided... Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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Greyman110



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Thanks for that. Looks like you did a nice neat job. What did you use to put in the holes you drilled for the bottom fixings? This is the first car I've ever had a go at doing things to so it's a learning curve!
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donmacn



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I think you could just put a nut/bolt through it, but I used a 'rivnut'.

It's just a collapsible nut, works on the same principle as a pop rivet, but you're left with the threaded section. You need to have the rivnuts themselves, and a tool to set them, though there are other ways to do it. I guess I did it just because I could. I have the tool, and the nuts, and it seemed neater!

Like I say, I think you could easily use just a nut and bolt. You might need to be careful that you didnt overtighten that, and distort the sides. Or use some sort of packing piece in between them. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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Greyman110



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Thanks... Good tip on the over-tightening! Thumbs Up
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wyvern



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Re: MSS small window grills
Greyman110 wrote:


Also I'll be putting up some used sides and a rear (non-brake light) in the for sale section soon if anyone's interested.

Thanks


I may be interested in the side grills depending on price and condition (I and if they are MSS ones ) would like the rear one too but have a break light fitted ...
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Post #720288 29th Jul 2018 6:45pm
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donmacn



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I have the rear guard fitted - and I'm about to fit an upper level brake light. I think I'll just modify the grill slightly by judicious use of a jigsaw. I can't see that it will particulary compromise the effectiveness of the guard. FWIW. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #720310 29th Jul 2018 8:20pm
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wyvern



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^ ^ ^ Thumbs Up Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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Grayman - you have PM ! Thumbs Up Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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