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Procta



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MOTs on 300s with out EGRs
Has anyone had a mot done recently with one removed? if so did it pass?
I have a funny feeling that this new place I am taking my cars too, is going to fail mine with out one on. Due to his advisories with the 306, which he struggled to explain. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Post #715388 30th Jun 2018 9:11pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Not the most useful advice but I know some variations of the Wolf fleet were supplied minus an egr, this was a direct action of Land Rover to supply with out one. There will probably already be some of those released and in use on civvie Street.


Now our fleet has an equivalent of an mot done in house, the easiest way to bypass any problems is to remove the spacers where the egr bolts to the manifold and replace it with a solid spacer, egr will look completely normal but have no use other than aesthetics Thumbs Up 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #715412 30th Jun 2018 10:36pm
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Alex1976



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I took out the EGR kit from my 300tdi years ago. Went through it’s MOT no issues at all last month.
Post #715413 30th Jun 2018 10:46pm
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dailysleaze



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Mines been through 6 Mots without EGR or a Cat
Post #715433 1st Jul 2018 8:32am
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donmacn



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Not sure it's directly relevant, but my 300tdi never had an EGR, and as far as emissions are concerned it's never had a problem at MOT time. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #715440 1st Jul 2018 9:43am
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Unfortunately Donald, it's not relevant. The MOT emissions test doesn't cover what the EGR does, so it wouldn't indicate whether one is fitted or not. Darren

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Post #715487 1st Jul 2018 2:54pm
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MGCarr



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Rioja Red
Earlier Defender 300tdi commercials came from the factory with a blanking plate where the the EGR valve would have been on the exhaust manifold. I don't know when this changed but I was certainly buying new 110 Hardtops in 1996/7 from Land Rover in this format and the blanking plate had a Land Rover part number because I used one to blank the EGR on my 1996 Discovery.
My 1997 Defender 90 passed it's MOT since the changes without an EGR valve in place.
Post #715611 2nd Jul 2018 3:25am
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AJC



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replacement MOT centre required
Post #715633 2nd Jul 2018 10:40am
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legin



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Just MOT mine today and was told new laws came in in May this year and the new kit knows if a EGR has been removed he did not have the new kit fitted yet but there also a lad on the same estate that chips and removes EGR for a living who told me there's always ways around new rules,so not very helpful but at least you know it's coming .
Post #715635 2nd Jul 2018 11:00am
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shayes



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Coniston Green
Mine went through it's MOT last month minus it and passed. Whistle , Cheers, Simon
Post #715845 3rd Jul 2018 12:07pm
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sako243



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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
I don't think it was just commercials. My CSW never had one fitted as far as I know. It's first owner was a commercial company though. Backed up by one of the engineers at JLR who thought the first 300s never had them fitted. Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi
Post #715942 3rd Jul 2018 8:04pm
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donmacn



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^^^^^^ In a way, that's the point I was trying to make earlier, but maybe not very well.

My car is a 300tdi 110 Utility SW. 1994. I believe it's among the first 300s. It never had an EGR fitted, but it never causes an MOT issue, or even gets a mention. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #715974 3rd Jul 2018 10:00pm
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Ramsay



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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
Mine has been MoT’d today with no issues for being without the EGR. Mine is a 1995 so am now interested if it was ever fitted.
P.S. no issue with LED original pattern lights as well. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
Post #716155 4th Jul 2018 8:20pm
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Procta



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Well lads its in for an MOT on Monday I will see what happens, if this tester starts been funny about that sort of thing etc I will go else where. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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L110CDL



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Millie has just been through her MOT and passed, as far as i know she has never had one on since i have had her Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


Clayton.
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