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rallysteve



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Crimping tool query
Has anyone come across a good set if crimpers which are capable of crimping the larger open barrel crimp terminals?

I have various different sets of ratchet/none ratchet crimpers which do nice work on yhe smaller (upto 2.5mm2) terminals but i have never found a set which are capable of doing the larger (4-6mm2) open barrel terminals. I always have to resort to using the semi-circular dies on on the handle side of my none ratchet crimpers which never results in a satisfactory crimp.

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blackwolf



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My go-to crimp tool for larger crimps is a Tyco Roto-Crimp 600850, but you won't like the price!

https://www.store.crimptools.com/amp-tyco-...sed-t.html
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Rashers



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Are you able to hire crimpers from a local hire company?

Unless you are doing a lot of crimping, seems a bit of a waste of money to buy something you may not use again for a while - not that this has ever stopped me Whistle

The electricians tool of choice used to be a hammer and bolster chisel in the days before quality assurance.

I am not advocating the above method, but I have seen cables crimped like this that have stood the test of time.
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custom90



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Careful use of a bench vice can be your friend here, unless you want to go down the route Blackwolf suggested.
The downside is the price of these tool, I'm sure that they are over priced deliberately. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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blackwolf



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They're priced for industry, where to a great extent the cost doesn't matter.

These hammer-type crimp tools actually work very well for large tubular lugs and are great value:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/draper-btc...gL4RfD_BwE
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Martin
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LandRoverAnorak



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For larger cable sizes, I bought a hydraulic crimping tool from eBay:


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I think I paid £23 and for the money I have to say that it's brilliant. It comes with a variety of dies for cables from 4mm all the way up to 70mm and makes a very neat job of it:


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 Darren

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rallysteve



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Thanks all,

My query relates specifically to open barrel terminals though. I have a hydraulic crimper for larger tube type terminals such as battery cables and anything for 6mm2 upwards.

It is this type of terminal that I am looking for a crimper for:
https://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/6.3mm_Terminals.html (see the 3rd item down). I have seen some jaws that look like they will fit one of my Durite ratchet handles which claim to be able to handle 4-6mm but i can imagine the force required for the larger crimps will be excessive with short handles.

I might drop an email to Polevolt over that one though Martin, it may well do the job, although i am dubious as it also does tube terminals.

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excossack



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I use a pair of pliers. Fold one side over and then repeat. But a tool for the job would be better. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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custom90



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Those hammer type ones I use in a vice. They work very well like that but maybe a bit big for 6mm2.

Is there a specific reason for using open ended barrel crimps in this instance? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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Martin
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Sorry I mis-read your original post. Saw "barrel" and thought "tube". Dumbo.

Polevolt have a good range:

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ARC99



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This is what another site recommend.
https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/non-insulat...-duty.html Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

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blackwolf



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^^^ For that sort of connector, the ones in the post above are functionally identical to the ones I use (although mine came from RS Components many years ago).

For some reason I too thought you were asking about larger terminals (for 6mm cable, not for 6mm spades).
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LandRoverAnorak



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Me too, I'm afraid Confused

For blade-type terminals, I too have a crimp tool essentially identical to the one linked to by ARC99 and it works perfectly. Darren

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dantastic



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I hate those types of connectors. I have never been able to crimp them right. I always end up soldering them, only method that feels safe to me.
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