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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
If your stuck in first gear (how to with pics)
I know it’s been talked about on here, but no photos exist in the threads,
I’ve just had a 59 reg 90 brought in on a recovery truck, which is well and truly stuck in first gear.

Remove gear stick, and hi low levers,
Remove the 4x bolts holding the alloy gear stick housing and pull to one side.

Remove the black plastic tunnel held in with TX27 screws,
Then you will see the two Detent plugs, one horizontal, one vertical.

Gently tap out the vertical one, being careful not to drop the spring or ball bearing.

Jack up the N/S front wheel, then insert a flat screwdriver and gently move the selector rail towards the front of the box,
You should feel it go, then check on the front wheel to see if you have hit neutral.


Refit detent plug (superseded ones are avalible)



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Hope this might help someone one day Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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MartinK



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Thanks for taking the time to write this up Thumbs Up Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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ian series 1



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It was a bit brief, but didn’t have much time Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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Very useful, Ian, thanks for posting! Thumbs Up

In the photos it looks to me as though it is the vertical detent that you've removed though.
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ian series 1



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Yep, sorry. Embarassed

Have amended post, like I say, it was all done in a hurry today! Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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shropshiredefender



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Thanks Ian - filed under "Stuff that may be vital when I'm least expecting it" Bow down
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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
It’s a half hour job,
Not sure what it would cost at a dealership?

Apparently there there is an official LR repair kit for this now,
Which requires the box to be split.

At least this would get you out of trouble! Wink 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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Thanks, Ian! Thumbs Up

I hope I never need it but will be very useful if I do.

Does this affect any particular Defenders? James
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MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
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ian series 1



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Not sure James,
I think it’s earlier ones? 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Thanks Ian, fingers crossed. Thumbs Up Bow down James
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MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
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Anyone got the product code for the new detent plug? 2011 2.4 110 Utility Wagon
1963 2.25 88 Soft top
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Excellent Ian, can prove invaluable if anyone should need it. Thumbs Up

Correct me if I'm wrong but surely the best way of avoiding this happening is not the leave it in gear full stop except for a situation where maybe for safety's sake you have to put it in gear. I.e. Parking on steep hills etc.

I suppose where you have to park at home regularly can have a bearing on it though, my parking place is perfectly flat but not everyone has the same. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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Detent kit is LR017294 for anyone else! 2011 2.4 110 Utility Wagon
1963 2.25 88 Soft top
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Scrawf



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Thank god for Defender2.Net and thanks to ian series 1 for his write up!

I had exactly this problem to day. Have the truck up on ramps so I could fit some new side steps more easily. Put it in first for a bit more security (never like relying on the hand brake when I'm underneath!) . Finished the job and tried to mover her off and stuck in first! Really strange as it's never don that before.

Anyway followed ian series 1's instructions and she's got a gearbox again! Thanks fella!

I must say its a pain getting the tunnel and carpets off but well worth it as while I was there I took the opportunity to clean and re-grease everything down there.
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sailawaybrad wrote:
Detent kit is LR017294 for anyone else!


Really useful thread, thank you

Just to say that today the cheapest I can find from 'usual suspects' in UK (LR direct, Britcar, Craddock etc) is £102 plus postage

However FleaBay have the same thing from Poland for £47.76 including postage Very Happy 2011 2.4 White 110 CSW LHD
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2015 2.2 Corris Grey 90
2009 2.4 Alaska White 110 Commercial - gone
2006 TD5 Barolo Black 90 - gone
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