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ARC99



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Traffolyte engraver
I have been asked to replicate some traffolyte signs for a heritage railway. Now these signs are small all the same size but have differing amounts of letters. In my past I did some pantograph engraving on Traffolyte ( it's strange what an apprentice fitter had to do) so I understand how fit differing amounts of letters into the same space using an old machine but I do not have the space of the wealth to purchase one.

Now the question.

Does anyone have experience of using a laser engraver that would engrave traffolyte that it not expensive and is idiot proof to use. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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Zed



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Had to google Traffolyte.




No prizes for guessing I'll be absolutely no help whatsoever.
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sako243



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Do you need to do it yourself or are you willing to farm it out? If you can source some samples I have a friend with an 8x4 laser cutter that might be able to help out. Ed
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grafty99



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Zed wrote:
Had to google Traffolyte.




No prizes for guessing I'll be absolutely no help whatsoever.


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discomog



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I suspect many thousands of engineers and production workers have seen these signs around their sites and fitted to all manner of machinery but never new they were called Traffolyte. Defender 90XS SW
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miker



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Looks like it would normally be done on a CNC engraver, but you might get away with doing it on low power engrave settings on a laser cutter, with a few passes to get the line width right.

Laser cutters aren't cheap, but if you can do the drawings I've used several companies local to me to do laser cutting, probably be some near you?
Post #695606 23rd Mar 2018 9:38am
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ARC99



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To answer some of the points.

I was thinking of doing the replacements myself depending on cost.

I know of several local firms that could do the job in hand but there may be more to come in the future.

Traffolyte posh name for multi coloured layers of plastic that used to be produced by I.C.I. . Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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blackwolf



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discomog wrote:
I suspect many thousands of engineers and production workers have seen these signs around their sites and fitted to all manner of machinery but never new they were called Traffolyte.


Yup, and I am one of them!

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Ramsay



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There are H&S concerns from the dust created from phenolic resins and thermosetting polymers so please factor that in if you are going to make yourself.
Engraving companies should be aware of it and control the dust extraction. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
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AMBxx



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Surely this is a really good excuse to buy a new 3D printer?
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legin



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I have the hole Traffolyte kit the machine and plastic strips and everything that goes with it ,it's old and I have never used it ,about two years ago I purchased the complete contents of a old TV rental shop which had been it the same place for about 45 years and this was just one of the items ,Monday I will get it all out I mean find it Laughing and take some pictures .
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grafty99



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AMBxx wrote:
Surely this is a really good excuse to buy a new 3D printer?



+1

With multi head extruder for different colours Cool 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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ARC99



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Ramsay...........In the workshop back in 1970 we had up to 10 of the old school engraving machines running at one time, we soon knew if someone had forgotten to switch on the dust extractors, even with them running we had to use dust masks .

Legin....... That would be a brand new machine when I last used one. Rolling with laughter


AMBxx and Grafty99 .............3D printer . Now that's something I had not thought about as I have very little if not no knowledge of this type of tech . Can they lay down different colours and leave gaps to form letters? Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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