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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2540   
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Autocar's preview of the new G -class.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-s...ign-leaked Why didn't Land Rover develop the Defender in the same way that MB continually developed the G wagon?  Defender 90XS SW
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24th Dec 2017 9:33am |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2217  
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Didnt they stop making the GWagon for quite a few years aswell?
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24th Dec 2017 10:23am |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1038 
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They stopped making RHD for the UK for over a decade but you could still special order them; they started bringing them back in, as a standard model, c2011. LHD have been in constant production since the beginning and the German military still use them too.
As for the article, it did make me laugh when they said they were going to make them 30% more rigid - one thing G-wagons aren’t is lacking in rigidity  |
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24th Dec 2017 12:15pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 
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Don't forget the that G Wagon production is also bolstered by the Peugeot P4, the Algerian Tiaret version, the Austrian Puch G, the Egyptian Kader, the Greek ELBO and the Malaysian DEFTEC. So they're being made by many companies and the licensing fees from that will help keep the Mercedes coffers flush.
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24th Dec 2017 1:06pm |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1038
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Mercedes G-Wagon production is not carried out by Mercedes but rather by Magna Steyr, formly Puch. Although Daimler have had an ownership percentage when the G-Wagaon was being built by Steyr-Daimler-Puch, they do not under MS (afaik).
My understanding is that the G-Wagon has always been built by Puch for Mercedes and Merc provide them with engines, drivetrain and interior components (technology and equipment - generally the tech from the outgoing S-Class). So Mercedes don’t benefit from the other G-wagon spin off products afaik. |
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24th Dec 2017 1:42pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Could someone please explain the second part of this description for me?
Brendan |
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24th Dec 2017 4:20pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4289 
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Overview of Mercedes Benz Pre Safe https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-reward...-pre-safe/ 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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24th Dec 2017 4:25pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Thanks Bluest
Basically Pre-safe tensions up seat belts, closes electric windows etc if automatic sensors pick up on certain signals. I had a sort of 'nightmare' visions of airbags etc being deployed automatically prior to a collision. Brendan |
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25th Dec 2017 11:53am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4289
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Just how fast can yo close a window or sunroof? Do you remember the flip up roll bar on 90s Merc SLs? Always looked like it would decapitate any passengers in those tiny rear seats! 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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25th Dec 2017 2:42pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2667 
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Middle east & California
G63's are every 2nd car on the road. also Mercedes budget can probably afford r&d.. |
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25th Dec 2017 8:09pm |
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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110 
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I lived in in the middle east for 5 years, they used to be more popular but they're certainly not common. You see allot of high end Patrol/Land-cruiser though and range rovers 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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25th Dec 2017 9:07pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5893  
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Strange. Given I'm a massive fan of my boxy, over-sized period 4x4, I've never taken to the look of the G. An AMG variant passed me yesterday, piano black with gold trim and wheels
 . Obviously I'd love to be able to hammer down the autoroute at the same speed he was, but otherwise it holds no appeal. And aside from the tech benefits of this new 2018 model it looks no different (not sure why they've plastered it in the disrupting patterns, you can spot the G a mile away), but the dash looks awful. Don't mind the LCD screen, but steering wheel with all the metal, and the vents in particular, look awful. Good though it may purport to be, I'm not sure I'd ever buy one. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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26th Dec 2017 10:23am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Popular in ex Eastern bloc...gets a sub-class of fails all of it's own.  |
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27th Dec 2017 5:07pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2540
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I knew you had to be slightly mad to pay that sort of money for a G Wagen but didn't realise you had to be a complete idiot to drive one .
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28th Dec 2017 4:54pm |
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