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dgardel



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Mine was the same. Replace it! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #704690 1st May 2018 11:30pm
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zsd-puma



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Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Re: Hk07
HK07 wrote:
With my Mot looming i finally got round to buying the new switch.

Got all ready to start the job when I realised it's working again!

How can this be?

Should I replace it anyway?


Your reverse light isn't tested on the MOT. Even with the new regs at the end of the month it only applies to vehicles registered after 2009.

The switch is faulty, chances are now the weather has warmed up it's expanded a bit internally so it works for now. just replace it, you have the switch so you might as well.
Post #704702 2nd May 2018 1:04am
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Reviving an old thread... Mine just failed too!

Ordering a new switch from Dan at Duckworths, and a super-bright LED bulb (Philips X-treme Ultinon LED P21W 6000K ) - should make reversing into my drive safer and easier Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #727328 5th Sep 2018 2:51pm
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pux146



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Really easy job to do, you can access it through the top access panel under the cubby box, or if you have smaller hands from underneath. 2007 2.4 90 fettled & remapped.
Post #727541 6th Sep 2018 1:13pm
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Thanks pux146. Mine's a County so I have a tray rather than a cubby box. I whipped the tray out earlier, and the panel underneath. a 22mm spanner and already had it out (smaller hands would have been useful)

Problem now is that Duckworths don;t have one in stock, so I called the Lake District dealer, and also Pentland in Edinburgh... none in stock anywhere and on back-order with LR. Bought a Britpart one for delivery tomorrow as I need it fixed for my MOT... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #727545 6th Sep 2018 1:36pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Did you try a Ford dealer? It's a Ford Transit switch (it's a Ford transit gearbox)

There's probably nothing wrong with the Britpart switch to be honest.
Post #727590 6th Sep 2018 5:34pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
^^ That's what I thought the day I needed a stake nut for a hub urgently some years ago, not even Britpart could mess up a hub nut, surely?

After it had destroyed the thread on my stub axle I realised how wrong I was!
Post #727614 6th Sep 2018 6:41pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Pretty easy to put the two switches together to compare the threads. Once screwed in it'll either work or it wont.
Post #727628 6th Sep 2018 7:28pm
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keef9t



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
I need to get round to replacing mine at some point. Any one got either the L/R or preferably the Ford part number.

Thanks, Keith
Post #727631 6th Sep 2018 7:40pm
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Martin
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Post #727638 6th Sep 2018 8:18pm
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Thanks Chaps - what an awesome forum Smile

I did look at the Ford switches on ebay, and just made a speedy decision (hopefully a correct decision!!) - it should arrive today, along with a Philips Extreme LED bulb replacement (may as well change at the same time) - should make reversing into my drive a LOT easier Thumbs Up

Will check the 2 switches side-by-side before install - will put a pic or 2 if I get chance to help others in the future Thumbs Up Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #727713 7th Sep 2018 8:39am
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
A few pics to help others replace the switch.

With the Centre Tray (or Cubby Box) whipped out, you can see the switch (circled)

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New part and old part side by side

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new part with box showing part #

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Chinese FFS... hope it lasts OK

Also bought a "Philips X-treme Ultinon LED P21W 6000K Reverse Signal Bulb (Single) 12898X1"

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Sooo bright Thumbs Up

A slightly fiddly job with access to the switch. Taking the cubby and tray out is of course super easy (8 screws total, 4 screws in each), but getting a 22mm spanner on the switch is a bit of a gynaecological excersize with large hands. All in all an easy fix and a good upgrade (plenty of bright light for reversing)...

Only took around 30 mins incl changing the bulb. Lashed loads of ACF in there before screwing the cover and tray back in place Whistle

I only buy decent branded LED's now - having had cheap/ebay/chinese/unbranded ones fail. I put good ones in the car and motorbike already - a sound investment ... buy-cheap-buy-twice seems to be the mantra for LED bulbs... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #727744 7th Sep 2018 11:36am
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pux146



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Good job Martin, it’s one of those easy satisfying jobs . 2007 2.4 90 fettled & remapped.
Post #727983 8th Sep 2018 9:25pm
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Roverrobbie



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2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
Found fuse blown on reverse lamp. Lamp measured 0.6 ohms which is far too low and would have drawn too much current. New bulb measured 3 ohms . The old bulb still worked ok but drawing this much current might have been too much for the reversing switch. Possible that the common faults on these switches are being caused by faulty lamps.
Post #734489 13th Oct 2018 11:10am
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NickMc



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Northern Ireland 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
Most of the time I find it’s the econoseal connector getting a hard life from road grime or the light filling up with water. The other thing is people taking the light out to change the bulb and pulling on the plug tugging at the pins Rolling Eyes
Post #734490 13th Oct 2018 11:14am
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