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| Apynala Member Since: 17 Oct 2009 Location: Morroco Posts: 88   
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Td4 is for the freelander
TDCi or Puma are the names by LR for the new defender But in France, (like every time)  they can't do the same things than others. And in some forum, they called it Td4 after the Td5 because it has 4 pistons 
So, if you want to be correct call it TDCi or Puma like here  |
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5th Mar 2011 11:39am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266  
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offical nomenclature, Land Rover TDCI long or abit shorter open or closed/windows or not.
2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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5th Mar 2011 12:06pm |
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| discofuzzy Member Since: 19 Feb 2011 Location: aberdeen Posts: 3
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I would say the last models were named after the engine units so i would suggest F.O.R.D. eg, Fix Or Repair Daily?
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5th Mar 2011 1:52pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5024 
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and technically a TDCi not TDCI
 Mike |
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5th Mar 2011 6:02pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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My wife has her own name for it
BM52 |
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5th Mar 2011 6:07pm |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266
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sorry Mike  2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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6th Mar 2011 9:19am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4503 
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The official title here is "The wife's car", or so she says. She always says "MY CAR" when referring to our Puma. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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6th Mar 2011 11:49am |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189
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i get that with the FL. it's my car when it needs tax, insurance paid, fuel, cleaning etc otherwise it's her car 
not sure i follow the logic BM52 |
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6th Mar 2011 1:42pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4503
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1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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6th Mar 2011 3:06pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909 
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I always thought FORD stood for "found on rubbish dump". Silly me. |
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7th Mar 2011 1:07pm |
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| Steve B Member Since: 22 May 2009 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 586 
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I thought they were bullet proof ? so whats wrong with them? Surely its just the TD5 which gets a bad rep?
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7th Mar 2011 1:59pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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Nothing wrong with them, really, at least no more than with any other modern engine, it is just fashionable to 'knock' Ford for no good reason. (Over the years I have owned several Ford vehicles and have always found them to be every bit as good as, if not better than, anything else).
The TD5 is, in my opinion, the best Land Rover engine of all time. Again, berating it is fashionable and completely unjustified. Sure, there were/are some problems, but no more than most other modern engines. Personally I rate the TD5 as a "better" engine than the Puma TDCi, but I don't consider the Puma to be a Land Rover engine, it is a third-party engine adapted to fit. Now clutches seem to be a different matter altogether. I don't know when or why Land Rover forgot how to make a decent clutch...... |
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7th Mar 2011 2:36pm |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304 
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Hmmm - I prefer the current engine. More torque, less turbo lag and none of that weird hesitation that the td5 unit had (which you could call a BMW engine). Sure it's a Transit engine but it seems to be pretty well respected after the usual Luddite anti-anything-new response that any "classic" is likely to get when updated.
Defenders need finishing a little better - better corrosion resistance, better fit and finish - but then a LOT is asked of them. We tow a lot of weight, we push them off road - stuff that nothing else can do as well. It's funny - I'm constantly expecting a breakdown with ours (done 2k miles in it now) but it's been fine. If anything happens, I just expect it. Will I get all huffy and sell if for something else if we have a problem? Nope, I'll get it fixed and carry on. I've owned many cars over the years and not one has got under my skin like the Defender - it makes me smile every time I drive it, it gets loads of positive remarks and it seems to be a car everyone young and old really does like. The other car is technically light years ahead, a zillion times faster and comfier, much better built but it doesn't have the "soul" that the 110 has. I really like it and also plan on keeping it for ages but the Landy definitely wins the liked car award. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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7th Mar 2011 6:54pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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Don't get me wrong, I think that the Puma engine is actually more suited to the Defender than the TD5 and I miss the torque when driving the Disco. I think that the TD5 is a better engine from an engineering perspective.
If TD5 development had continued and a version was available which had the same up-to-date technology as the TDCi, it would be a very intersting unit. The TD5 will always be smoother, and is stronger. You can get power levels out of a TD5 which will cause a TDCi to disintegrate. Finally and as I mentioned above, I don't consider the TDCi to be a Land Rover engine, it is a Ford engine fitted to a Land Rover. The TD5 was a Land Rover engine through and through. I am lucky, in that I have a TD5 Disco 2 and a TDCi Defender. The Defender would not be as good if it had the TD5, and the Disco wouldn't be as good if it had the TDCi. |
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8th Mar 2011 12:01pm |
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