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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2626  
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Has anybody done this?
My license is dated after the change so I need to take the test Reading The website... https://www.gov.uk/car-trailer-driving-test/trailer-rules Does a box trailer include a ifor Williams? This is what I planned to take the test in... I had no idea it has to weight a certain amount so my plan if I can use my ifor is just get a 600kg bag of sand... If not I'm stumped would a caravan or a large boat suffice? Could possibly use one... ??some crazy rules regarding this test |
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18th Mar 2017 7:33pm |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 906  
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yes it includes all makes and models of box just got to have one that has a MAM of over a Ton just check the plate.
Find some space and have a quick practice of the manoeuvres there is explanations online of what the measurements are, there is a set routine for the uncouple and couple and the drive is fairly rountine of that of the standard LGV etc etc test. |
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18th Mar 2017 8:29pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2626
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Thanks for the replies...
My ifor is the following kind... 14 foot I'm out in the Persian gulf again with very limited wifi 
My plan was to just buy 600 + kg of sand in one of them big bags to get the weight up... And plan b to make it into a box trailer 4 scaffolding posts in the corner and just use a canvas... if it has to be a strict box I'm very good with a trailer, have driven lots but the problem is I can't drive the trailer fully loaded as the weight is too high... |
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18th Mar 2017 8:50pm |
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| MGCarr Member Since: 18 Nov 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 59 
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These are the rules regarding the trailer and its load, taken from the .gov website.
Rules for the trailer you use The trailer you use and the load it carries must meet certain rules. Your test will be cancelled and youll have to pay again if your trailer or load dont meet the rules. The trailer you use must: be a closed box body, eg a horsebox be around the same width and height as the car - you must only be able to see to the rear by using external mirrors, and not through the rear window have a maximum authorised mass (MAM) of at least 1,000kg - you need proof to show the examiner, eg the manufacturers plate The MAM is the limit on how much the trailer can weigh when its loaded. Rules about the load The trailer must carry a load of at least 600kg. The combined weight of the trailer and load must be at least 800kg. The load must be secured safely to the trailer. Your test will be cancelled if it isnt. The load can be either: bagged aggregates weighing at least 600kg, eg sand, stone chippings or gravel (but not toxic materials) water in a 600 litre or 1,000 litre intermediate bulk container Intermediate bulk containers are industrial containers for transporting liquids. Theyre made from semi-transparent plastic and are usually reinforced with a wire frame. Bags of aggregate Each bag of aggregate must: be sealed weigh at least 10kg (all bags must weigh the same) have the weight clearly marked on it You can also use a single bag if it weighs 600kg or 1,000kg. Water in containers Water must be in an intermediate bulk container. The examiner must be able to see if it has the correct level of water. |
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19th Mar 2017 2:05am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1758 
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It's not much money to just go and do the course with someone. Trailer will be right weight, size and be setup for the testers to use it. Also will deal with you knowing what they're looking for. I did mine after a fair bit of towing with a 750kg trailer, training in the morning and test in the afternoon
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19th Mar 2017 2:10am |
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| apachecow Member Since: 12 Apr 2016 Location: Yorkshire Dales Posts: 59 
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I did similar, a couple of hour long lesson beforehand to make sure I had the procedures correct and check general driving was fine. Then used the instructors trailer for the test as you can't just rock up by yourself with a trailer.....
Passed first time with 3 minors. |
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19th Mar 2017 3:09am |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006  
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Forgive my ignorance but if you supply the trailer to the correct required parameters how are you supposed to get to the test location legally? Ok someone else with enough licence could take it there for you but what if you don't have access to such a person or if you have insufficient funds to do an inclusive course, or like the op have a rig that you are familiar with and have been using legally but in a limited capacity and are wanting to upgrade it's functionality . I know I wouldn't be at my best in a different borrowed car with an unfamiliar trailer on the back. Just a thought. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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19th Mar 2017 8:08am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19569
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I'd imagine it's taken for granted that you could go with L plates with a pre 1997 licence holder to the test.
Or have to pay someone to do so. 
They aren't the brightest with their ideas. When I took my test in my 90. I wanted to check it was okay to do so. Only answer I ever got was "it's probably okay". And I had t go on that basis I and it was, but still.... Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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19th Mar 2017 1:56pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5024 
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Getting there is no different to any other test. You cant drive your trailer without L's and a person who has the necessary rights to supervise (just like you cant drive your car to the test centre to take the driving test). Just a note - a little UNKNOWN rule is that a pre 1997 person (eg grandfather rights) person cannot supervise you to do the B+E stuff - I found this out from a family member who drove HGV for specialist lifting/moving - it was funny that i could teach his kids to drive B+E but he couldnt even though it was his job. I had it confirmed later on.
The pre 1997 person could, of course, drive the combination to the test centre for you... Personally the course is worth it as the test has quirks Mike |
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19th Mar 2017 7:13pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997 
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The compsny I work for put everyone through the B+E lesson and those that didn't have the category got put through the test. As I have an old license I just had the lesson with no pressure. Really enjoyed it and still use the reversing skills I learnt to this day.
There were some people who struggled with the B+E test, not because their trailer handling skills were poor, but because their general driving wasn't up to test standard, which came as a shock as I don't think many realised it was more than just trailer skills that were examined. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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19th Mar 2017 7:29pm |
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| Disco_Mikey Member Since: 16 Nov 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 531  
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Done mine recently
I had been playing with trailers on and off for a while, but decided to make it all legal, just in case 
Done a days inclusive course. Practicing manoeuvres, correct hitching/Unhitching technique, what is expected in the test, as well as brushing up on general driving skills that have deteriorated over the past 12 years 
From memory, it was 400 or so, using their car/trailer, but included the test at 120 
Passed 1st time  |
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19th Mar 2017 10:19pm |
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| arran jones Member Since: 21 Nov 2016 Location: south west Posts: 725
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Hello All,
I am working on a friends house next Saturday moving a load of topsoil! 
According the LRO magazine, my defender only weighs 1889kg! Does this mean I can pull a trailer over 750kg as long as the MAM isent more than 3500kg, is this right??, If so that would mean I would be able to pull a trailer of a maximum of 2tonne??? Please Let me know! Many thanks
Arran |
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2nd Apr 2017 4:30pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
have a look at your vin plate for weighs
Top = max vehicle laden weight 2nd = gross train weight = fully loaded vehicle & fully loaded trailer 3rd = max front axle weight it can safely carry 4th = max rear axle weight it can safely carry |
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2nd Apr 2017 5:10pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19569
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Click image to enlarge Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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2nd Apr 2017 5:40pm |
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