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Torque Settings

Work in progress.....
During the next few weeks we will endeavour to complete new sections giving popular Torque Setting information, some models already done.
For example:




Chassis tightening torques (Refer to Engine Sections for engine torques)


Front hub (Replace Nut)
1)30 Nm 2)210 Nm
Rear hub (Replace Nut)
1)30 Nm 2)210 Nm
Steering wheel
43 Nm
Steering box mounting
80 Nm
Steering track rod end
40 Nm
Steering box drop arm
175 Nm
Brake disc to hub screw
Front
73 Nm
Apply locking fluid.
Brake caliper/carrier to hub
Front
82 Nm
Brake disc to hub screw
Rear
73 Nm
Apply locking fluid.
Brake caliper/carrier to hub
Rear
82 Nm
Road wheels

Steel wheels = 105 Nm
Heavy duty wheels = 170 Nm
Alloy wheels = 170 Nm
Lightly coat mating surfaces between wheel centre hole and hub (use copper anti-seize grease).
Do NOT lubricate studs or nuts. Paul
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Post #600692 10th Feb 2017 5:29pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Advanced Factors wrote:
Road wheels

Steel wheels = 105 Nm
Heavy duty wheels = 170 Nm
Alloy wheels = 170 Nm
Lightly coat mating surfaces between wheel centre hole and hub (use copper anti-seize grease).
Do NOT lubricate studs or nuts.




Be careful with those numbers. Here are the by LR recommended torque numbers for the Puma 2.4. Also printed in my user manual.

blackwolf wrote:
The Puma workshop manual for the 2.4 gives the following figures:

Steel Wheels 100 Nm 80 lb-ft
Alloy Wheels 130 Nm 96 lb-ft
Heavy Duty wheels 170 Nm 125 lb-ft


Now, I know there has been some later discussion that alloys also require 170Nm for later model years of the Puma 2.2, but I am not sure that that number is correct.
Not sure why torque numbers for same wheels on same model trucks would suddenly increase from the Puma 2.4 to the 2.2.
Sounds more that the 170Nm recommendation for alloys (same as the correct number for the HD Wolfs) for the most recent Puma 2.2 model years is a mere misprint. If I remember correct, the question about this sudden appearance of 170Nm for Defender alloys was asked to be clarified in a question to Land Rover Customer Relations. Don't remember exactly the name of the person there at that time because there was such a quick succession of people in that function, but one thing is for sure, LRCR never responded to that question. Rolling Eyes

Now, additionally, I do not think that copper slip is the ideal lubricant for all wheels. It surely is ok for steel wheels on steel hubs, but there are better neutral greases for alloys on steel hubs. Alloys on steel hubs are already two different metals, copper slip would be a third one. For that purpose I think it is better to use ceramic grease which is metal free and so forms a real barrier between two different metals. Also read the below.
http://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk2/thread/1256568010.html
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic36426....mic+grease
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw


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Post #600694 10th Feb 2017 5:39pm
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

Useful to have a list of torque settings specific to each model, well done.

Just need to make sure its correct Confused

Very knowledgeable Eric, a concern well worth raising, thank you Thumbs Up James
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Post #600725 10th Feb 2017 7:17pm
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue

My owners manual for 2008 110 USW states 130 Nm for alloy wheels. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard

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gilarion



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just looked in a Haynes manual and it suggests the following:

Steel wheels 108 Nm or 80 lbf ft
Alloy wheels 130 Nm or 96 lbf ft. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

Post #611442 22nd Mar 2017 7:44pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green

Excellent idea I have just started to make a list for my rebuild trawling through the manuals. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............

Post #611448 22nd Mar 2017 7:57pm
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apt100



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

For the record, MY2012 and later owners books (online at Topix) give 170Nm for alloys.

The MY2011 has a single figure of 133Nm and doesn't differentiate between steel/alloy.


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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue

It is strange that this topic has come up, an ex work colleague rang yesterday to let me know that he has had a problem with a Dealer after his Defender went in for a service. Seven out of twenty wheel studs sheared when they torqued up the wheel nuts up to 170Nm . I won't go into details this is just a warning. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

ARC99 wrote:
... Seven out of twenty wheel studs sheared when they torqued up the wheel nuts up to 170Nm ...


it sound odd to say this, but I reckon he's a lucky man. For the studs to fail at 125lb.ft. they must at some stage have been stressed well beyond the yield point of the material so he's potentially been driving round with wheels that could have detached at any time.

Either that or the garage is lying and tightened them well beyond 170Nm.

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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

apt100 wrote:
For the record, MY2012 and later owners books (online at Topix) give 170Nm for alloys.

The MY2011 has a single figure of 133Nm and doesn't differentiate between steel/alloy.


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My handbook (2010) also specifies 133Nm, but the workshop manual says 130Nm, so which one to believe!?? Shocked --

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Post #803948 28th Nov 2019 2:09pm
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I always use 133NM. If that helps? 🇬🇧 Made In GB. 🇬🇧

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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Thanks.

The ones for the RRS is 140Nm, so I'll just use that. --

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Likeomg



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Anybody have the torque settings for suspension?

I never really know when it comes to dampers that I don’t over compress the bushings


Maybe torque for the following;

Turret bolts
Bottom spring securing bolts
Front and rear damper

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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

ARC99 wrote:
My owners manual for 2008 110 USW states 130 Nm for alloy wheels.


I wouldn’t trust the Puma Haynes manual to tell me how to do anything. It is so riddled with errors it’s not funny. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

^^^ Unfortunately so is the genuine LR WSM, full of anomalies and errors, with parts that clearly describe the Td5 not the TDCi. Shocked

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