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ericvv



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UK in the news in continental European news websites...
Ahem, ahem, this appeared on various newspaper websites today. Shocked
Not exactly, how do you say that, .... King English? Rolling Eyes
Luckily it all seems to end in a nice way. Laughing



But, I find the cyclist actually showing the worst behaviour of these two. Rolling Eyes You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw


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Caterham



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Rolling with laughter

Absolutely great!

Hope he suffering with concussion after
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Which one?
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Caterham



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The one who kissed the tarmac
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Ha, was there really any need to keep on annoying him though? Probably as much need as to shout and curse and make a t*t of himself. Both parties are as bad as each other here, this could have been resolved quickly and quietly with a quick apology from the angry gentleman, now some poor soul has to clean blood from the Tarmac and put his teeth back in Laughing
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^^I cannot agree more with you. These bikers with their gopros think they are a legitimate police force themselves. Luckily these cameras are not so spread here as in some countries, police openly discourage all drivers from usîng them as a matter of fact. That type of guys are all cases of small in big things and big in small things in my opionion.
Posted it, because as I said, this movie appears today on various newspapers websites, not the most brilliant picture of the UK I guess. Laughing
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
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Driver needs anger management course ......
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If you ask me the cyclist had plenty of room, there was a big gap on the left he could easily have gone into. A typical ***** cyclist with a camera out to provoke people unnecessarily, pity the car driver didn't get to sort him out. 2.2 90 XS
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leeds



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Some observations.

Cyclist has a rear pointing camera as well as a forward pointing camera?

Car driver and cyclist do not appear to deviate from their tracks.

Cyclists seems to be prepared to shout out vehicle registration number straight away rather then rely on getting it off the film later.

Verbal altercation? Whilst cyclist language was less colourful (i.e. less foul mouth/uncouth) was it designed to provoke/inflame the situation?


Now if you are going to claim the moral high ground you need to be whiter then white. If the cyclist wants to take that film to the police and complain about the car driver then he will be presenting the police with evidence of his misdemeanours as well. Since when has cyclist in the UK been allowed to cycle on a footpath?

Reckless riding on footpaths? Look here

I would suggest both that driver AND the cyclist needs some instruction on respecting other road users and pedestrians.


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Ignoring the behaviour and anger issues that ensued (both need some serious chill therapy) Just looking at the road use issues:

Cyclist should have been maintaining the primary road position since there was insufficient space to be passed due to parked cars (i.e. mid remaining lane space thus preventing motor vehicles passing him) whilst in this position he should maintain a good speed so not to hold up passing faster vehicles too much.

As the car approached the cyclist he should not have tried to pass as there was insufficient space, however the cyclist as soon as he was aware of the motor car behind should then have moved over into the pretty long space in the parked cars to let the car pass him.

The car by storming past much too close did not let the cyclist move over in a controlled way, he clearly swerved over to move away from the vehicle.

The riding on pavement was a legitimate escape from an attempted attack, the cyclist had dismounted his bike, as he escaped you can see his leg swing over the cross bar.


There are aggressive cyclists on the roads who do not help the rest of us by influencing the hideous behaviour of many motorists, however there are a lot more aggressive or incompetent motorists who regularly manage to wipe out innocent cyclists.

Over 100 cyclists are killed on UK roads and over 3000 are seriously injured every year.

There is a lot cyclists can do to reduce their chances of being one of the above statistics however no matter how good you are as a cyclist an idiot in their 1.5Te steel safety shell can wipe you out in a second, often due to aggression, inability to wait, failure to look or just poor road position.

With regard to anger, getting hit by a car or nearly being wiped out tends to enhance adrenalin production (normal human reaction to threat or danger) in modern society the fight or flight reaction often manifests its self as anger and whilst this remains verbal and polite is quite understandable, what amazes me is that some people can display similar anger sat at a PC when responding to a post of a forum, encouraging physical violence in a post is unacceptable to me.

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leeds



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Probably one of the biggest problems on UK roads is different classes of road users showing insufficient respect for other road users. Add that to people DELIBERATELY ignoring basic road signs such as RED traffic lights be it car or cyclist or ignoring keep left signs etc.


From ROSPA here

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Cycling Accidents
Around 75% of fatal or serious cyclist accidents occur in urban areas 2
Around half of cyclist fatalities occur on rural roads
75% happen at, or near, a road junction
80% occur in daylight
80% of cyclist casualties are male
Almost one quarter of the cyclists killed or injured are children
Around three quarters of cyclists killed have major head injuries.
Types of Accident
Accidents involving child cyclists are often the result of the child playing, doing tricks, riding too fast or losing control. For teenage and adult cyclists, accidents are more likely to involve collisions with motor vehicles, but about 16% of fatal or serious cyclist accidents reported to the police do not involve a collision with another vehicle, but are caused by the rider losing control of their bicycle.

In collisions involving a bicycle and another vehicle, the most common key contributory factor recorded by the police is 'failed to look properly' by either the driver or rider, especially at junctions. 'Failed to look properly' was attributed to the car driver in 57% of serious collisions and to the cyclist in 43% of serious collisions at junctions.

Other common contributory factors attributed to drivers are 'poor turn/manoeuvre' (in 17% of serious accidents involving a cyclist) and 'careless, reckless, in a hurry (17%). Cyclists are more likely to suffer serious injuries when a driver is judged to be 'impaired by alcohol', exceeding the speed limit' or 'travelling too fast for the conditions'.

The second most common contributory factor attributed to cyclists was 'cyclist entering the road from the pavement' (including when a cyclist crosses the road at a pedestrian crossing), which was recorded in about 20% serious collisions (and over one third of serious collisions involving child cyclists).

The most common vehicle involved in collisions with cyclists is a car or taxi, with the rider usually being hit by the front of the vehicle. In a quarter of fatal cyclist accidents, the front of the vehicle hit the rear of the bicycle.

However, heavy goods vehicles (HGVs) present a particular danger for cyclists, especially in London where around 20% of cyclist fatalities occur involve an HGV. These often occur when an HGV is turning left at a junction'. About one quarter of accidents resulting in serious injury to a cyclist involved an HGV, bus or coach 'passing too close' to the rider.

Common Cycling Accidents
Motorist emerging into path of cyclist
Motorist turning across path of cyclist
Cyclist riding into the path of a motor vehicle, often riding off a pavement
Cyclist and motorist going straight ahead
Cyclist turning right from a major road and from a minor road
Child cyclist playing or riding too fast






As an ex cyclist I have had narrow escapes with cars etc. As a motorist I have had narrow misses with both cyclist and motor bikers.

Just to pick up one point about HGV and cyclists accidents. There have been calls to ban HGVs in London during rush hour due to accidents with cyclists. Some of these accidents occur when cyclists undertake a HGV as it is preparing to turn left. An extremely dangerous action n the behalf of the cyclist.



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A poor reflection on both parties.

The cyclist had all the evidence he needed but seemed intent on a confrontation which neccessitated chasing the car and coming close to pedestrians on a couple of occasions. What if someone with say a child in a pushchair or a blind person had been exiting their property while Mr Cyclist was hoofing along the path? Steve.
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Bang on MOG

My blind wife has had countless incidents with cyclists tis amazing what happens when her cane enters the cycle spokes Rolling with laughter

Best comment from a 40plus pavement cyclist now bike less (mangled wheel)"why didn't move outta my way didn't you see me"

Wifey just explained that the white cane meant she was blind so no Rolling with laughter
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/\ Haha I like that Ken!

This is what happens when 2 idiots meet Laughing
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