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Glynparry25



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Just had my first problems
After 1.5 years of hassle free motoring I have had me first problem Big Cry Pluged her in and got this Shocked :


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I am old school engines... not so much this ECU telling me what to do. Anyhow 10 mins on Google got me this:

P167B- Fuel Injector Learning Not Done
P0562- System Voltage Low
P068A- CM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized Performance - Too Early
P0234- Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition
P1103- Throttle to air flow plausibility not active.Last occurrence - maximum signal
P0100- Mass or Volume Air Flow "A" Circuit
P0299- Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition
U0001- High Speed CAN Communication Bus
P1643- CAN link to ABS ECU.Implausible signal/condition
U0300- Internal Control Module Software Incompatibility

I have reset them all now and will see how it goes, but bit concerned that the car stalled on me (was only doing 10mph at the time).

Anyone had similar problems?

Glyn :sheep:

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Post #55472 28th Jan 2011 12:17pm
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christyler



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Fault
I am no expert, but it seems to me there is too many faults there and some conflicting ones. I have seen this type of thing before with a low battery voltage problem.

I know in might be stating the simple solution but have you checked the battery and terminals ? One of your faults was "low voltage" it could be that it was the cause of all the others.

Its not likley that you have a throttel, MAF, comms, and turbo fault all at the same time.
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Post #55477 28th Jan 2011 12:40pm
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Nanocom evo wrote:


NANOCOM - PUMAENG.APP - PUMA ENGINE fault file

0404 - 72
Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) control circuit
range/performance

actuator stuck open
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0299 - 00
Turbocharger A under boost condition

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0100 - 29
Mass or volume air flow A circuit

signal invalid
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P0100 and P0299 faults are being rectified on my Landy on Tuesday by LR. The fix is a new EGR/Turbo harness as the wiring is stretched. LR now do a modified harness to solve this issue. Also getting a new EGR valve under warranty


Nanocom evo wrote:

NANOCOM - PUMAENG.APP - PUMA ENGINE fault file

1935 - 14
Brake switch sensor signal

circuit short to ground or open
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0299 - 00
Turbocharger A under boost condition

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C001 - 88
High Speed CAN Communication Bus

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1643 - 87
Controller area network (CAN) link engine
control module/transmission control
module circuit/network

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The U001 and the P1643 appeared after I had been playing about with the nanocom, plugging it in and out a few times. These faults were reset and have not reappeared. The only constant faults I receive are P0299 and P1935 which should be fixed Tuesday!


EDIT:

P1103 Mass Air Flow Sensor In Range But Higher Than Expected
U0300 Internal Control Module Software Incompatibility
P1643 CAN Link Engine Control Module/Transmission Control Module Circuit/Network
P0562 System Voltage Low (Fault code under: Vehicle Speed, Idle Control and Auxiliary Inputs)
P068A- CM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized Performance - Too Early (Glow plug circuit)
Post #55478 28th Jan 2011 12:41pm
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Glynparry25



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Cheers for the input everyone..... now I am miffed!

Went for a short drive after deleting the codes and most of the codes have gone and not come back Thumbs Up other than 2:

P167B- Fuel Injector Learning Not Done
068A- CM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized Performance - Too Early

And 2 more have appeard Sad

P0606- Control Module Processor
P0404- Exhaust Gas Recirculation "A" Control Circuit Range/Performance

So looks like you are in the right area Bri..... Will call LR assist when I get back from UK this weekend..... Would much rather it go to a UK dealer (Ripon) for the work though (German LR dealers are complete W@NK). Will see how it goes.

Glyn Sheep
Post #55484 28th Jan 2011 1:17pm
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Glyn, don't reset these codes as LR will only do the warranty work with them showing on the ECU, so you should get a new EGR and wiring harness. You probably already know this but anyone else reading this post who doesn't know should be aware that the serious codes should not be cleared from the ECU as that is what the dealer basis the work on, ie No faults listed in ECU = No problems with Landy. Thumbs Up
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I can see that if I get a fault reader I'm going to be alerted to all the invisible codes that the system logs. I'll be driving around paranoid and worried the whole time Laughing

Maybe I should live in blissful ignorance Shocked One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #55493 28th Jan 2011 2:40pm
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alantd wrote:
I can see that if I get a fault reader I'm going to be alerted to all the invisible codes that the system logs. I'll be driving around paranoid and worried the whole time Laughing

Maybe I should live in blissful ignorance Shocked


I have been... I guess that is why there were so many codes there like overboost.... All turbo cars do it every now and then, but when she cut out today I am glad I could read it as it gives me an idea what is going wrong Thumbs Up and whether IU should be super woried or not.

Glyn Sheep
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nakatanenga wrote:
blame it to the Flipflopmechanic!


I must have knocked the EGR whilst changing the bumper! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Glyn Sheep
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Re: Just had my first problems
Glynparry25 wrote:
After 1.5 years of hassle free motoring I have had me first problem Big Cry Pluged her in and got this Shocked :

I am old school engines... not so much this ECU telling me what to do. Anyhow 10 mins on Google got me this:



Download this one https://files.me.com/daniele.gardellin/vbutqe your P1103 isn't correct!!!


P167B- Fuel Injector Learning Not Done you have done Q068 but dealer do not done injectors learning (same mounths ago LR system given errors on this procedure)
P0562- System Voltage Low battery related to the cold temp not a real problem
P068A- CM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized Performance - Too Early see previous point
P0234- Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition normal on all Puma that I have seen
P1103- Mass Air Flow Sensor In Range But Higher Than Expected normal on all Puma that I have seen
P0100- Mass or Volume Air Flow "A" Circuit related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete
P0299- Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition normal on all Puma that I have seen
U0001- High Speed CAN Communication Bus related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete
P1643- CAN link to ABS ECU.Implausible signal/condition
U0300- Internal Control Module Software Incompatibility related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Re: Just had my first problems
dgardel wrote:

P0100- Mass or Volume Air Flow "A" Circuit related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete
P0299- Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition normal on all Puma that I have seen
U0001- High Speed CAN Communication Bus related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete
P1643- CAN link to ABS ECU.Implausible signal/condition
U0300- Internal Control Module Software Incompatibility related to BAS remap but not really a problem new version are ok now, write to Pete


Hmmm, I better write to Garry.... Don't think Pete will do much for my Alive Tunning re-map thingy Very Happy

I wonder why it cut out on me today then. Maybe time for a good service after being in the cold for so long Confused

Glyn Sheep
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alantd wrote:
I can see that if I get a fault reader I'm going to be alerted to all the invisible codes that the system logs. I'll be driving around paranoid and worried the whole time Laughing

Maybe I should live in blissful ignorance Shocked


Thats what happened to me.

EGR...blank it by a remap...ignore the fault, get a new one (how much) or what? Mike
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Did you short circuit the power supply of the wich shortly or so?

Is just the fault codes or is it driving faulty? WANTED:

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nakatanenga wrote:
Did you short circuit the power supply of the wich shortly or so?

Is just the fault codes or is it driving faulty?


Is that at me?

Driving fine - except changing MPG - everyso often it logs either EGR stuck open or Stuck Closed.

I think there is an intermittant fault (i did ask the dealer though, when in warrant, so dont start me!) Mike
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