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| caribcat Member Since: 11 Jun 2009 Location: Anglesey Posts: 97  
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Returning from a snowboard session in Snowdonia today, I decided to take the short cut down the twisty steep as
 hill I avoided on the way in. Looked fine and someone had been up with MTs on. Had no control as it was slicker than a slick thing. Stone wall on one side and deep drop to a rocky river on the other. Managed to come to a stand-still but still had to have my mate lean on the side of the 110 to stop it slipping down the camber to the drop.
All we could do was dig a channel to get a tire in to the bottom of the hill, about 1/2 a mile. Suitably knackered now. Dropping tire pressure had no effect -might have made things worse and even in low with diff lock on and feet no-where near the pedals the back was trying to overtake! Could have accelerated out of that but things would be a lot worse. Top tip, which was buried at the back of my mind from an off-roading past, was to stop and start with the ignition key with all in gear and handbrake off. No need to touch pedals as that was where it was going wrong. Dragging a spare tyre/ground anchor on a long line would have really helped too but had neither. Can't wait for these General Grabber ATs to wear out. MTs next me thinks..... |
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21st Dec 2010 3:38pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
yup same feelings on the grabbers, pants in the snow and ice.
Pom |
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21st Dec 2010 4:41pm |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304  
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Pom - didn't you do this recently?
My Grabbers (and many mates Grabbers) have been fantastic in this snow and ice. No issues at all. Any loss of grip has been through driving wrongly (and learning from it each time) not through poor tyres. They are M&S rated for a reason. Run them at lowish pressures and short of studded tyres, not much will perform better. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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21st Dec 2010 4:55pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
i have the factory fit TR's not the AT2's.
Will be remedying the problem after christmas. Pom |
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21st Dec 2010 5:26pm |
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| gtveloce65 Member Since: 10 Nov 2008 Location: West Sussex Posts: 107 
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Interesting thread - I've been considering changing from factory Grabber TRs to AT2s as the stock tyre seems to have been especially bad in the recent compacted snow - doesn't want to dig in at all.
I don't do much 'proper' off-roading, so can't really justify the possible noise/economy penalties of muds, beside which I've heard mixed reports of their use on compact snow and ice. What is the collective opinion of Grabber AT2s? Just in case all this snow nonsense carries on well into the New Year... 1953 80 1965 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce Sprint 1980 Fiat 124 Spider 2008 110xs |
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21st Dec 2010 5:46pm |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
Spoke to Andy at AJ Tyres and he said he has AT2's on his landrover. Enough for me !
Pom |
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21st Dec 2010 5:52pm |
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| gtveloce65 Member Since: 10 Nov 2008 Location: West Sussex Posts: 107
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that's a useful recommendation, thanks
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1965 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce Sprint 1980 Fiat 124 Spider 2008 110xs |
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21st Dec 2010 6:26pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109  
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This is were snow chains come into there own.
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21st Dec 2010 6:49pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5024 
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Grabbers on mine - out since saturday on them...fantastic - even went off in 6 inch of new snow off road - fantastic Mike
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21st Dec 2010 7:21pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670 
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My thoughts exactly! This is the reason i have 4 chains not 2, maximum control down slippy hills when its icy! It may be a pain fitting and removing them but you always get home in one piece! Pete. |
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21st Dec 2010 7:32pm |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 
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Swmbo's disco 2 has performed flawlessly in the snow on AT2's I'm really happy to by another set when they wear up. 10k miles so far this year with no abnormal signs of wear.
 Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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21st Dec 2010 7:48pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109
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Whats the difference between the grabber at2 and BFg at2 which I am on mine seem fine in all conditions.
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21st Dec 2010 8:02pm |
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| digger Member Since: 12 Dec 2010 Location: dorset Posts: 10
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had grabbers on my puma was glad to have them taken off and sold them on ebay. back to bf goodridge 265 75 mud terrain
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21st Dec 2010 8:37pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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Really won't make much difference changing tyres from at2 to mtr, buy some chains instead, they will stave off gravity slightly longer. I live in the North York Moors and believe me gravity always wins Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper |
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21st Dec 2010 9:09pm |
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