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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Water repellent for clothing
My watetproofs are not as waterproof as they once were. (Rear soggy bum time on last rally)
What do people suggest as a good water repellent to wash clothes with?
I tried an aerosol spray on a coat and no good.
So looking at options. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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dorsetsmith



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Post #561218 4th Sep 2016 7:50am
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GREENI



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Nikwax Techwash.
Hand wash in and rinse, then tumble dry. Thumbs Up
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slo-mo



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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Loire Blue
^^^^ ditto.... Nikwax Wash-In TX Direct - Go Outdoors stock it. Same make also do a non detergent soap for washing waterproofs
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Thor



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
As above.

I use Nik Wax wash and the the waterproofing stuff on my out door gear and motorbike kit. It's really good stuff!! 8 hrs in the rain yesterday in my bike and no wet patches! Strong people are harder to kill and generally more useful!
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
I (ok my wife) uses NikWax Tech Wash, but they do a whole range of products. Thumbs Up James
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Cheers all.
Looks like Nikwax wash-in is the one! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #561312 4th Sep 2016 6:29pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
GREENI wrote:
Nikwax Techwash.
Hand wash in and rinse, then tumble dry. Thumbs Up


No tumble drier Sad 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Leaky 110



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Tesco do nikwax stuff now, I buy it for my paramo waterproofs. Good stuff!
Post #561316 4th Sep 2016 6:33pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
That's handy, I have a staff discount card Smile

I wonder if this works on the 110? Smile 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Devon-Rover



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green
What Material is your jacket and trousers made from?

The typical 'hardshell' fabrics which include but not exclusively such brands as Gore tex, Isotex, eVent, Triplepoint ceramic and Aqua dry. These fabrics use a partially permable membrane layer which allows water vapour out but the pores are small enough to prevent liquid water in.
If you have a clothing item that over time you now find leaks and is made of these fabrics it isn't a simple case of a reproof, you have another reason how water is getting in.
It could be a geninue hole in the fabric or overtime the tape on the seams has got brittle and now water gets through the stiching holes.
The common misconception is that when the DWR coating fades and water stops beading off the fabric that it is not waterproof or lost it's waterproofness (if that's the word). It hasn' the fabric being a membrane still holds it's waterproof properties but the fabric has wetted out and all this does is compromise the ability to transmit the water vapour.

There is the softshell fabrics which whilst don't have a true waterproof membrane come as a 'shower proof' where TBH rely on the DWR coating to shed water before it soaks in.

Then there is the Ventile and Nikwax family of which Paramo is the most known brand. What they do is use a material which simply transports water and as such used to move water vapour and also larger water drops to the outer fabric keeping you dry, I won't get too techinical.
Whilst paramo isn't strictly waterproof as if you kneel down or sit in a puddle you will get wet but it's active water movement and decent DWR coating means during even truely foul weather you will stay dry.
Anyway i digress simply if you have a membrane fabric which has now let water in a simple reproof won't properly cure it, the renewed DWR might stop the ingress for a time but the problem will still be there.
Inspect the clothing closely say in the sink and you might find a seam that needs repair or something like a hole caused by a thorn.
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dorsetsmith



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Air dry or tumble dry on a low setting if care label allows.
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
The material in question is the Hi Vis coat type such as this type http://www.screwfix.com/p/site-hi-vis-ligh...hest/33199 and also ex railway HiVis overalls probably not originally waterproof but do seem to have the ability, or at least some. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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RED-DOT



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I use Grangers products on all my shooting gear when required. Much better than Nikwax. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
Leaky 110 wrote:
Tesco do nikwax stuff now, I buy it for my paramo waterproofs. Good stuff!


A few weeks ago, Tesco were doing a pack of Tech Wash and TX.Direct Wash-In (2x 1ltr bottles) for £15 and they also had a 2 -4-1 deal on, so basically 4ltrs of wash n wax for £15. Amazing value.

Cheers

Simon
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