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rossy



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Are swivel pins supposed to be this oily ?

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I had a quick look underneath and noticed this. I haven't done any off roading but the roads here have been very wet and mucky. 7 months old 6k miles. Its the same both sides. Would it be dirt in the seals ? I don't think its coming from anywhere else. Seems a bit excessive to me. Any ideas ? Thanks
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K9F



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I had one exactly the same and had the seal swapped out first service. Wouldn't say it deserved a special trip to the dealers but worth mentioning if you happened by... Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Dave-H



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K9F wrote:
I had one exactly the same and had the seal swapped out first service.


Same here ... had both mine replaced under warranty when it had its 1st year service Smile Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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Doesn't look that bad to me unless it's leaking down but then I'm used to Series swivels Shocked
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rossy



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thanks guys

It can wait until July which is when first service is due Thumbs Up
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MK



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At least you know there is something inside the swivels Puma 110" SW

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rossy



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true but how much and how do you fill it when its empty ?
Its always been a mystery to me because some take EP90 and others take a one-shot grease so not sure how to maintain it Embarassed
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rossy wrote:
true but how much and how do you fill it when its empty ?
Its always been a mystery to me because some take EP90 and others take a one-shot grease so not sure how to maintain it Embarassed


None built in the last 15 years use EP90 .. its all grease now Smile Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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rossy



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thanks Dave but how do you top it up ? I don't see a grease nipple anywhere
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MK



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Actually the one shot grease comes in a sachet with the proper amount, 370 ml or so. It is a quite low viscous grease (NGLI 00), whereas "usual" grease is NGLI2.

There are 2 ways to get the old stuff out: i) disassembling the swivel or ii) heating gently the hub a bit without burning the seal and taking the lower pin out. Anyway, I think in your case maybe 1 ml is lost.

There are also 2 ways to replace the seal, but I guess youŽll take it to the dealer.
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rossy



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thanks MK
just a thought. I had a look at the Haynes manual - ok pre Puma models but I think the axles are the same. Would it be possible for diff oil to leak past the half shaft/CV and come through the swivel ball seal ? I changed the front diff oil recently and while I didn't overfill it I used a slightly thinner 75/90 Castrol Syntrax.
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MK



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rossy wrote:
thanks MK
just a thought. I had a look at the Haynes manual - ok pre Puma models but I think the axles are the same. Would it be possible for diff oil to leak past the half shaft/CV and come through the swivel ball seal ? I changed the front diff oil recently and while I didn't overfill it I used a slightly thinner 75/90 Castrol Syntrax.


Yes, usually oil migrates towars the swivels. Back and forth. I would not worry too much about it. Puma 110" SW

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rossy



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very reassuring that. Thanks buddy !
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So I had the same problem and had the dealer change them under warranty, problem is that the problem persists, should I worry? Looks uncomfortably close to the brake discs Crying or Very sad
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Same here, both of mine changed at 12mths and 9k miles, you'd think they'd of got it right it now by now Banging Head Banging Head My old disco never had a drop from them and I've had it 11yrs! Darren
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