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Justtellme



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Canada 2003 Defender 110 Td5 SW Oslo Blue
Cruise control
We're any defenders fitted with cruise control from the factory? I see numerous aftermarket kits, but also references to the ability to retrofit one to the td5 using existing circuitry in the ECU. If the circuitry exists, why have I not seen any factory cruise control pictures anywhere on line for the TD5?

Patrick
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adseybear



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The circuitry exists because of the use of the ECU in discoveries which did have cruise control. 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green - "Betty"
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Post #484719 23rd Dec 2015 8:53am
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I've been thinking of this mod as well. Urban Truck have a nice looking kit on their site. However I also read once that Pete at BAS said that a remap would require a mod for a CC upgrade. Given I am planning that as well, does anyone know what the Bobby Moore is? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #484728 23rd Dec 2015 9:23am
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roel



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no update or mod needed. But only works with standard transfer box. AFAIK




easy. Mr. Green Roel

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Post #484855 23rd Dec 2015 5:29pm
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Justtellme



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I've just purchased a Disco 2 cruise control setup. Maybe I'll try my hand at a retrofit.
Roel, thanks for the circuit diagram!

So....pin 35 is the live 12v for the system and the remaining pins are grounds or switched logic circuits?

Patrick
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I carried out this mod on mine and it transformed long drives. I'm 6 foot and even with taller seat rails fitted to straighten me out, I'd get an ache down the front of my right leg after half an hour. I fitted a Disco switch and did the wiring following some of the instructions I tracked down on line. The only part I couldn't get working was the resume function but to be honest I'd rather take it back up to speed gently to save fuel anyway! Coupled with a stage 1 remap it sits happily on motorways and pulled like a train down to the south of France this year even fully loaded with camping gear and up some nasty hills too. I'll try and post some pics shortly.

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steve_c3



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Cutting the column to take the switch...


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Fixing the switch to the shroud using some builders band cut and bent and fixed with some black trim screws...


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Putting it back together...

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The finished article...all in it cost me about £40 from memory...



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Post #484985 24th Dec 2015 12:20am
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Justtellme



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Nice installation!
Where did you get the connector and terminals to mate to the disco switch?
Also, did you incorporate a master on/off switch?
Patrick
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Cheers. I cut the Disco connector off and used some standard connectors. The terminals and rubber bungs for the ECU came from an online electrical company...I'll try and track down the name. I had no need for an on/off switch so I just hit the set button and it's done. I ran some multi core cable down to the seat box so that I've got a spare cable for a rev counter (when I find one cheap enough!). Once set, it cancels the moment you touch the brake or clutch pedal. 2002 Defender 110 CSW TD5
Post #485121 24th Dec 2015 3:29pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I took a separate ingition live, not from the ecu. At first I had it connected as the circuit diagram but then without the master switch. I had sometimes a problem that suddely the ecu didn't react on the throttle pedal. I first tried cleaning the throttle pedal as mine gets dirty sometimes Whistle but that didn't help. I disconnected the CC completely and didn't have problems for months so I then used a other live feed with a switch and had no problem till now.

For Off-roaders like me who did the clutch pedal signal mod (disconnect the plug Twisted Evil ) The CC will switch off without this signal as the ecu sees that the revs go up and not the speed so it cuts out. Roel

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Post #485123 24th Dec 2015 3:39pm
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Paargy



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So is it as simple as wiring the cruise control switch is as shown, no module needed?
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
FWIW, I’d like to install CC but I have enough to do around home. I found that removing one of the two springs on the throttle pedal makes a huge difference especially on long trips. Just undo the one away from the side panel and secure it up with a tie wrap. Simple and easy to do. Not cruise but its still a good mod. Thumbs Up 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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Justtellme



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4RF
There is a nice 1999 Disco with all the switches you need at the Kenny’s U- pull in Ottawa if you want to sort out that CC....
Patrick
Post #894829 30th Mar 2021 2:14am
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4RF RDS



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Thanks Thumbs Up Something to think about! 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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achuakh



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Paargy wrote:
So is it as simple as wiring the cruise control switch is as shown, no module needed?


No modules. Just two momentary contact buttons and/or an on/off switch.

I took the 12v from the ECU power wire (to prevent any ground loops) and i do not have an on/off switch. It's always on in this case. It's been working for the longest time now.

Additional mods in the ECU map:
I've a 1.222 transfer box so i needed to modify the "valid gear ratio".
I've also adjusted the cruise control PID, so it doesn't accelerate that hard as the original (disco 2 had smaller tyres) and the steady state is +/- 3kmh vs the original +/- 5kmh.

the ECU pins are econoseal type (from my memory) and these are pretty easy to find online. you can either crimp the wires or solder them onto the pins. From the land of the most expensive land rover defenders on planet earth. At �125k for a XS 110 csw and you get to own it only for 10yrs! Please find me a good reason to stay on this island.
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