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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
Hand Brake Light On startup?
Hi guys,

Not a problem at all as my 200Tdi has always done it...But...

Does anyone else notice when cranking on initial start-up the handbrake light ignites and then turns out the second the engine starts?

Also the Pto/gearbox light flashes on and then turns off immediately.

Does this happen for anyone else?

I didn't think they would be plugged into anything so why the flash on startup? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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custom90



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Voltage drop on turning over, voltage can get as low as 8v for a second it two whilst cranking. Thumbs Up
Post #481198 11th Dec 2015 12:20am
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shaggydog



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Ahh k

But would that make a light come on though? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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Post #481294 11th Dec 2015 1:54pm
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dorsetsmith



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check wiring to and from hand brake switch Exclamation
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custom90



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The brake light should be on all the time when the handbrake is on. Only ever off if the handbrake is off.

So if the light goes off at all with handbrake on check the above post regarding the switch wiring.

The light should only be on with handbrake on or if brake fuid level is low. Whilst driving it should be completely off.
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
It doesn't have a handbrake switch and it never illuminates apart from on start up with the pto box light Confused Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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custom90



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I would say normal.
Brake fluid level all good?
Post #481324 11th Dec 2015 4:39pm
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
Yeah brake fluid is fine Thumbs Up

Its purely a curiosity thing as its always done it so was just wandering why it is.

I'm not going to start pulling the dash apart to follow wires though..

Its not THAT interesting Laughing Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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Mountain_man



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Early ones had a brake check light. Not sure how it works but was designed to work via a relay to give a light at start up and go out if all was OK with the brake pressure unit. I think.
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tonyhedge



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I haven't got a 200Tdi to look at so I may be mis-remembering, but I think they come on as a self-test just to confirm the light is working, then go off. Cranking may be pulling the volts low enough to retrigger the self-test. That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not ... oh! That is a dent!

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Mountain_man



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Info in this post. Read reply 8. Quite possible that this is your light. If you have the Pressure Differential unit then I guess it is all working OK

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=52567
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jst



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shaggydog



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Possibly, but wouldn't that show up on the Brake warning light rather than the Handbrake light?

And why would it also operate the pto light? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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Retroanaconda



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Brake warning light illuminates with key at position III (i.e. start) as a bulb check.

Mine does it and always has. No pressure differential warning thingy either as its a 90, just a G-valve on the rear brake line. The brake warning light is otherwise only triggered when the fluid is low.


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Post #481499 12th Dec 2015 11:45am
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Mo Murphy



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Concur with retro above, it comes on as a bulb check.
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Post #481501 12th Dec 2015 11:46am
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