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miker



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Sound deadening and seat mountings
I currently have all the load area torn out for some tidying up and some new seats to fit. What's the consensus on order of fitting things?

Planning to put sound deadening on the rear wheel boxes, then the carpet, then the seats, but my concern is that they'll be mounting through something "squishy". Would a better bet be to fit the seats and deaden and carpet round them?
Post #484446 22nd Dec 2015 1:20pm
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I would cut the sound deadening around the mountings and make a decent job of it 2016 D4 HSE

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Post #484453 22nd Dec 2015 1:47pm
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miker



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I was thinking about just getting some 3mm rubber sheet to make a gasket underneath if I go that route
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I put the sound proofing down and fixed through, it then also isolates vibration from what you are fixing. On some items where bolts passed through the soundproofing I cut a larger hole and packed with washer to the thickness of the mat

Andy
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has anyone got any pics of the stages of them sound proofing?

my 90 arrives in 3 weeks and i want to start taking everything out before i register it in march.

pics would be a great help! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wanting another 💭
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miker



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I'll hopefully be starting the load bed on mine tomorrow morning, I'll be sure to grab some pics for you!
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I appreciate why you may wish to insulate/isolate the mountings, but I'd make trebly sure that the seats are fitted tight and secure and therefore I'd prefer to cut the sound proofing around the brackets as proposed by RRUK.

I am not for one moment suggesting that you wouldn't secure the seats, so pease don't ate offence, it's just I'm a bit OCD when it comes to safety. Whistle

I can of course imagine that some form of insulation would reduce vibration etc.

There will be plenty of folk on here who have done the job and lived to tell the tale! Thumbs Up

I hope it all goes well Very Happy
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It's all very well avoiding putting Dynamat under seat fixings. (I put on top)
But I bet many don't torque to the torque figure and check them like I do.
For that reason I'm not worried about it or the seatbelt mounts as they are torqued correctly and I check them.
There is no give there at all.
All you'll do cutting it around is create a dirt and corrosion trap not to mention if not careful paint damage and that'll corrode even more.

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miker



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All valid points! I think I'll cut round it, Might source some rubber sheet to go underneath the seat base though, just to provide some protection. As a point of interest, the 2 man benches that were there from factory were just bolted through the carpet and arches, and the spreader plates fitted underneath aren't much bigger than a piece of DIN rail!
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custom90steve wrote:
It's all very well avoiding putting Dynamat under seat fixings. (I put on top)
But I bet many don't torque to the torque figure and check them like I do.
For that reason I'm not worried about it or the seatbelt mounts as they are torqued correctly and I check them.
There is no give there at all.
All you'll do cutting it around is create a dirt and corrosion trap not to mention if not careful paint damage and that'll corrode even more.

Each to their own I say, freedom of choice, freedom of speech. Mr. Green


Like your connection between 'torque' and freedom of speech.....

I'll get my coat.

Very valid point Steve. I've seen some awful situations emerging due to inadequate and/or insecure fixings relating to safety.

As for creating a dirt and corrosion trap - I couldn't agree more - I've got enough!

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Post #486803 30th Dec 2015 8:46am
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I know what you mean on the fixings, normally caused by fixings too small or with inadequate spreader plates and or washers.
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HI All

There is a few pics on this page of our sound deadening package, i wish i got better pics as the lighting is poor but you get the idea.

http://www.alivetuning.com/product/alive-f...g-package/

Let me know what you think.

Cheers
Alex Divers Thumbs Up
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custom90



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Is there much point or area behind the dash to Dynamat? Or do we use Dynamite first? Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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Hi

We were rather against putting it behind the dash unless a customer requested but once we done it and compared the difference to one of our own builds we were shocked, we have being dynamating behind the dash ever since as the result is very noticeable!

Cheers

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Interesting! One to bear in mind. I had considered it but wondered what areas where worth doing there.
Post #486847 30th Dec 2015 12:26pm
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