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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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Quick search but no luck...
Please can someone tell me if the reversing light switch is easily accessible/removable/serviceable on the Puma 2.4 (MT82) with basic tools? Any pics even better. My reversing/trailer light and camera are all dead. Fuse is fine. I'm on holiday and don't want to jack up/crawl around underneath unnecessarily 
Many thanks for any help you can give. Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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28th Jul 2015 10:54am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
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28th Jul 2015 11:35am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19560 
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Matt - Check the rear earthing strap, clean it and re-tighten its on the transfer box and easily accessible and visible from underneath.
At least rule that out as an issue first and see if it solves it, if not then it could well be the switch. |
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28th Jul 2015 12:29pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Brilliant - thanks guys
I'll have a look at the strap and if it's okay I suppose I'll have to wait until next week to check the switch. I'll just get my son to get out and warn others when I'm reversing 
Have a good day! Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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28th Jul 2015 12:38pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16868 
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If it is a fault with the earth strap it is likely that you won't have any working rear lights (or rear wiper, if you have one).
Reversing lights are curious things! There is, of course, no legal requirement for them whatsoever (at least in the UK) and their purpose is to illuminate the area into which you are reversing, not to indicate that you are reversing. I once had a loony woman driver get quite abusive because I was reversing my S1 (which has a reversing light operated by a switch on the dash) in daytime, so without the reversing light. I was nowhere near her, but she still taught me some new words because my reversing light wasn't energised whilst I was travelling backwards. You could, as a temporary measure, swap the lenses over between the (completely useless) rear fog and the reverse lights and simply turn on the rear fog when you reverse, I suppose. |
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28th Jul 2015 2:30pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19560
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What lights are we talking about here incandescent regular bulbs or LED's?
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28th Jul 2015 2:37pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5417 
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Changed my reverse switch from underneath, only took a few mins, but you do need the correct spanner to fit in the gap.
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28th Jul 2015 2:40pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Good idea switching the lenses - I might try that to avoid annoying the locals (the roads are really narrow round here and I often block the road).
However, I had to hammer over some really bad ground today (lost a few fillings and the wife was seriously peed off) and it seem to have freed something up - somehow it's working again (for now). I guess it's the switch so I'll see how it goes. I'll try from underneath when I get back. If not, then from below the cubby (but I fear the carpets may make that awkward). Cheers all
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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28th Jul 2015 7:38pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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I changed mine from underneath not difficult just tricky to get spanner on
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28th Jul 2015 7:56pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19560
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If you want easy acess the matting or carpet needs to come out, the front section only.
Lift rubber gaiter lip up under gearstick and transfer box stick. UN-clip gearstick and extract. Slip rubber gaiter off the transfer stick and it's off out the way. Undo all the bolts on the plastic inspection cover there are a fair few. Remove plastic cover and bobs your uncle it is there in front of you. Might be worth it rather than struggling with poor access, but up to you.  |
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28th Jul 2015 9:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16868
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On my 2007 the carpet on the seatbox has a join along the middle so the two sides can be folded back and tucked under the seats. The centre panel can then be removed easily. Cubby has to come out first of course.
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28th Jul 2015 10:49pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19560
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BW - Yep, mine is the same only rubber matting.
I'm suggesting the section in front not touching the seatbox area or under cubby access plate. Following my method above you can get access leaving cubby and access plate in-situ. This is of course unless carpeted Defenders need more removal. In a rubber matted defender the matting is in three separate parts. 1 over seatboxes only 2 over gearbox tunnel and bottom footwells 3 against footwell bulkhead behind matting retainers and directly under dash. 2 should come out in one piece, unless if like I have you have SS sills which you'd have to loosen first. Had it all apart a month ago or so should have taken pics. |
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28th Jul 2015 11:20pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19560
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Following on from above to avoid a super long post...
Look at Lorryman100's pic above, you'll see the orange parts these are the holes for the screws that hold down the plastic gearbox tunnel section. There are more on the seatbox side too, remove all those and the whole plastic cover removes and instant access. The annoyance is the carpet or matting first. Another shot from another member here: You can see the fixings and the section I mean. Click image to enlarge |
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28th Jul 2015 11:24pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16868
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The centre part of the carpet (over the tunnel) is also a seperate piece and it isn't difficult to remove. Removing the tunnel cover (as C90 Steve suggests) will give much better access to the switch but is, IMHO, significantly more work than taking out the centre plate from the seatbox.
Both are more work than accessing the switch from underneath, of course! I guess it largely depends on personaly choice and possibly how big your hands are! I know that I really couldn't get at mine at all from underneath, certainly not enough to get a spanner on it. |
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29th Jul 2015 8:46am |
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