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| JAY BOY Member Since: 04 May 2010 Location: Not here Posts: 1706  
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Muddybigdog
You have just described a Disco 
Theres nothing wrong with the Defender if it doesn't leak. |
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1st Feb 2015 8:02pm |
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| Mountain_man Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Right side of Offas Dyke Posts: 756
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As a farmer I think what would have sold well and would could still work would be to stretch a TD5 Disco chassis to 120 inch and stick a pickup back on it. Refined, very good tow vehicle, easy enough to maintain. Could fit Puma engine and 6 speed box to bring it up to date. Galvanise the chassis as a USP and bingo. Many UK farmers would buy them I am convinced.
Something like that white one from Australia (Goggle Disco Ute) |
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1st Feb 2015 8:57pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3755  
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My thoughts too. I don't really need any more power, but the option of a more powerful engine would have been good,...a 3L V6 Turbo Diesel would have been nice, & what I would've ticked had it been on the option list. Even the 150HP tune now offered on a couple of the celebration models would've been welcome. But We're perfectly happy with what we have. Pickles. |
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1st Feb 2015 9:42pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3346  
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To be honest the only factory advancement they could have made to make it instantly better was a better security system.
And bringing back FC rims. And galvenising the doors and chassis and bulkhead. And the colour blue. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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1st Feb 2015 10:01pm |
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| Blondie Member Since: 31 May 2014 Location: London Posts: 46
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Lots people complain about elbow room.
I have been driving defenders daily and over 250 000 miles (wow thats the distance to the moon) for the last 20+ years and being 6'3" never had a problem with elbow room or head room. Hope my puma will be as good as the last two when it arrives on 1st of March 
I just hope the DC100 will be as iconic as it predecessors. |
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1st Feb 2015 10:40pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16892 
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Sort out the minor niggles (build quality, leaks, heating and ventilation, clutch, driveline clonks), build in decent security so they are hard to steal, but otherwise leave it alone.
Sadly it won't happen, not just for regulatory reasons, but because the cost of hand-building a vehicle is simply too great. |
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1st Feb 2015 11:10pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Im not too fussed on styling. I dont have a problem styling wise with some of the LR ideas. However it must be modular, modular, MODULAR.
Sadly i know it wont be. |
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7th Feb 2015 4:57pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/25/...MC20150225
Interesting that this figures so highly on new buyers lists - and JLR do so poorly apparently - "Two consistently low-scoring brands were at the bottom of the J.D. Power study. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' Fiat finished last while next-to-last was Land Rover, owned by Tata Motors of India." |
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26th Feb 2015 9:31am |
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| Black Puma Member Since: 31 Jan 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 175 
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Basically there is nothing wrong with the current car except susceptibility to corrosion and all the mechanical issues. But for a new Defender.... back to basics, utilitarian, minimal and well made. As such:
Same body shape Return to front opening vents Less bling No leather, just high tech washable wear resistant cloths and plastics, made from recycles materials Back to even more basic than basic 100% Corrosion proof Better quality control Aluminum or galvanised chassis Revamp headlight surrounds Turn 90 into a 95 maybe Re-engineer everything with care so it works and wont need 10 warranty returns from new Discreet but utilitarian airbags A system that can actually hold the weight of the spare rear wheel and tyre. For the life of the car! Increase fuel capacity Own the look and integrity of the car making it the exact opposite of an FJ Cruiser Ethics, hows this for an idea, stupid?: Instead of thinking of the bottom line profits- how much extra money they can make from this new evolution/incarnation. Sell more more more, not enough profit, more more more. How about making the car to the best of their ability, for the current customers that love it- how the current customers and Britain want it. Then after paying your shop floor staff the best wages, give ALL Defender profits from here on, to charity. Companies spend a fortune on race car teams and other sponsorships for profile. Land Rover should keep their Heratige alive, respectfully, for profile at zero profit to themselves. Thus acknowledge that this car created Land Rover and after 67 years of taking profits from this car, it's time to give something back. Land Rover, invest in your customers, employes, world around you, and your sense of fun. Importantly- Create new division called Land Rover Commercial Then our car can be separated from the Luxury aspect of the brand. Most sale persons or service departments treat Defenders with contempt because they have less hassle and more money from cashed up Range Rover customers (and wannabes). This also frees them from the polar association with the Defender, so unhindered, they can continue asserting themselves as a prestigious luxury brand. (On a side note, I am sure even in its current form, that the Defender, surely must be profitable. How many cars are made per day, selling on average £25,000 each on road at dealers!!!) BMW Motorrad?- I think Land Rover should also examine BMW motorcycles and their 2014 cult release of the lo-fi but highly well made R Nine T. That works for BMW Motorrad who have established themselves as an expensive technology driven brand. Have a look at the R Nine T online. Historic center?: How fantastic would it be, with this new Defender, to incorporate a classic center manufacturing new parts for old cars and offering genuine Land Rover restoration service. Porcshe Classic Website Apologies for the long waffle  |
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10th Mar 2015 3:57am |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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Better security
Better corrosion resistance Rear seats (where fitted) that remove easily and for people that like to fit them... a proper factory fitted snorkel with the entire intake system designed to be compatible ie airtight/waterproof. |
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10th Mar 2015 8:57pm |
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| Venomator Member Since: 25 Aug 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2087
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But GREEN... 
I am a simple soul with simple needs and this will do (almost) as is...
And enough about the jerrycan sides already... 
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The GREEN One... MY2016 Urban Truck Build Thread - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40548....al[/color] |
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10th Mar 2015 10:16pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547
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Are they parking sensors on the roof
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10th Mar 2015 10:40pm |
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| Monmouth Member Since: 27 Nov 2013 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 45 
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I'd like an engine that's as good as the best variants of Toyota's 4.2L diesel engine and a 6 speed version of the New Process NP435 gearbox. Stronger axles, diffs and halfshafts would also be required. 1990 Defender 300TDi
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10th Mar 2015 10:45pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10363
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4.7 v8 'yota lump or 6.7 Cummins diesel.
Dana 60 axles. Auto The rest, the same as is. But with opening air flaps in the bulkhead....ya know, proper bulkheads |
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10th Mar 2015 11:14pm |
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