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PrivateB



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Rear Wiper turns the ignition lights on!
Went out to the Landy this morning to see the rear wiper stuck half way through its sweep - two fuses blown - 2nd and third on top row - replaced them both and now the wiper starts

Only trouble is now the wiper won't switch off and the ignition lights come on with every sweep - with the switch in the off position and the keys not in the ignition.

With the rear wiper motor disconnected and the fuse in place the ignition lights come on

Any help would be gratefully received as I'm no expert in electrics

'97 300TDi Hard Top

Thanks in advance
Post #370354 8th Nov 2014 5:10pm
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V12vanquish



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Sounds like a wiring short, look around the back door etc for a rubbed / nipped wire.
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PrivateB



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Thanks for the reply

just disconnected all the rear door electrics from behind the rear light and the fault is still there Big Cry
Post #370367 8th Nov 2014 5:54pm
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munch90



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there is a permament live and a ign live for rear wiper and guess there is a short between these two wires somewhere

sorry unable to tell you where as not a common problem as far I know

what model is it
little pic says 2013
post says 97

just to be sure
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V12vanquish



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Maybe have a look around the light switch and wiper switch for a wire rubbing the steering column area.
It might end up being difficult to find, but it sure sounds like wires touching some where.
Post #370375 8th Nov 2014 6:20pm
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CFB



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Water/moisture in the fusebox?

Leaky screen or bulkhead can affect it Andy
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PrivateB



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Thanks Munch90 - will follow those wires further along in the morning
Little pic is correct and so is the post Smile - it's a new (to me) Hard Top for work - 1997 110 300TDi Hard Top - ExMOD

Thanks again V12vanquish will look there as well.

Strange thing is that although there is current draw (fuse arc's when putting it in) the fuse doesn't blow - not that I have left it in for more than a few seconds


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PrivateB



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Cheers Andy - doesn't appear to be wet but will check
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munch90



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munch90 wrote:
there is a permament live and a ign live for rear wiper and guess there is a short between these two wires somewhere

sorry unable to tell you where as not a common problem as far I know

what model is it
little pic says 2013
post says 97

just to be sure


just re read my post and not quite right , there is a ign fed switched feed and a ign fed live

ign fed switched feed , is the one that you switch the wiper on and off with
ign fed live is used to make wiper self park when you switch it off

but still comes down to you got a short somewhere !

if there is a relay for rear wiper , might be worth starting there , pull relay out it might tell you which side short is on , before or after relay
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PrivateB



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What's making this even stranger is the fact that all this is happening with the ignition off.

Time to start digging deeper - Thanks all
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V12vanquish



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If there is a live wire touching somewhere it won't matter if the ignition is on or not.

I have my battery tender pig tail lead connected into he fuse box below the drivers seat, there are loads of live feeds in there with the ignition off.
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I know this thread has been idle for a while but just another option to be considered if this happens to anyone else.

When my 91 200Tdi did the 'possessed car' think one night, it turned out to be corrosion & shorting in the rear wiring loom where an aftermarket tow socket had been spliced in. Always worth unwrapping this and checking for bad/corroded joints in this area.
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