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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2724  
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Looks like it just started as a defender then which has been photoshopped as a thought exercise? Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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19th Feb 2015 7:34pm |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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These are definitely photoshopped. The two vehicles do not have the same surfacing at the base of the A post. I personally think the grey one captures the essense of where the Defender should, and could be heading. However, I agree that the spare wheel carrier is too much cladding and resembles a window box. The basic window graphics and major features are carried over from the classic, but the surfaces look modern and appropriate to modern manufacturing. No shame in that, and if we get modern door seals and mechanisms, bonded windows and such, we will be all the happier. The 3/4 front view of the 110 somehow looks less convincing. Reminds me of the retro styled and somewhat fake looking Landcruiser. I have every faith that the team at LR have done a lot of careful research and taken the design further since showing the DC100. They won´t instantly win us all over when the day comes, but they have done a great job on the rest of the "range" so far, so we will have to give them a chance to convince us. Many of the real Defender utility customers have since bought Amaroks, F150´s and such, and will require winning back. This will have to be done with state of the art technology, and a thoroughly modern technical package..... 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s, Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons |
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19th Feb 2015 8:57pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3140 
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I'm afraid for me both of those look pretty grim. Far too Japanese.
Btw the vehicle has not been taxed because it has been tagged as exported. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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20th Feb 2015 5:46pm |
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| SS90 Member Since: 16 Nov 2013 Location: Uk Posts: 372
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Summed it up perfectly 22900013A
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20th Feb 2015 5:53pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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http://wallstcheatsheet.com/automobiles/th...?a=viewall
 Click image to enlarge It's interesting to look at the issues facing Jeep with the Wrangler replacement and see were JLR could be with the Defender. There are some amazing similarities but also some large differences. All down to the choices previous management have made. If you see the two models converging more in the near future - "the new Wrangler is rumored to have an aluminum body for significant weight savings, a smaller engine (most likely a turbo-charged inline-four), an eight-speed automatic transmission, and a possible fully-independent suspension." Heard that anywhere before? Maybe JLR are after a slice of the Wrangler market - the article quotes "Jeep has no trouble moving the trucks, with 235,904 built in 2014 alone". Click image to enlarge |
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22nd Feb 2015 9:58am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2724
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Jeep produced over 240,000 wranglers last year??!!
That's more than Land Rover sold evoques! Ten times what Land Rover sells defenders. Surely wrong? Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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24th Feb 2015 1:22am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3753  
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240,000??....V.....17400 Defenders??!!
Pickles. |
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24th Feb 2015 1:36am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2724
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Wikipedia seems to agree. Where are they all??!! Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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24th Feb 2015 1:39am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3753
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Well, I can tell you where some of the Wranglers are,......"in Aus",.....there's HEAPS of 'em here!
Pickles. |
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24th Feb 2015 3:19am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2588  
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In ZA too - bucketloads of them around. And not just for show - we see them on the 4x4 trails every time we go out with the LR club. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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24th Feb 2015 8:23am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Must admit that figure on Jeep production really surprised me as well - I haven't tried to source independent validation...maybe I should; but if it's correct then you can see why JLR managers and engineers would be looking at it closely to see what features and functions a Defender replacement needs to break into that element of the market.
Given JLR are looking for 50,000 vehicles per annum then it seems a very realistic target; indeed the new defender could show the Evoque a clean pair of heels when it comes to production success. Edit: Looking at sales figures alone for 2014: US 175,328 Canada 23,057 |
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24th Feb 2015 10:03am |
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| dolomite Member Since: 05 Apr 2014 Location: pitesti Posts: 66 |
175,000 Wranglers sold in 2014 according to this:
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/gmc-w...tor-rumors |
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24th Feb 2015 3:23pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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US Jeep sales only
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24th Feb 2015 3:29pm |
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| Natlas Member Since: 20 Mar 2013 Location: West Sussex Posts: 460 
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A friend of mine is convinced a Defender replacement was shown in last weeks Farmers Weekly, anyone seen that article? I'm going to ask him to bring it round tomorrow as by coincidence I'm going to Lode Lane tomorrow with him for the Defender Celebration tour.
Ironically in a borrowed Freelander as my Defender is at the stealers having warranty repairs!  
Happy days. 2.2 90 XS 88" Series One Old Norton 
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24th Feb 2015 6:51pm |
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