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TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3748

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

jst wrote:
its functional i know that.

Definitely functional

and drive really well

California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

12th Feb 2015 12:09am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

I wonder if this facility has ever been made to fit a standard Defender chassis?

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12th Feb 2015 3:15pm

JWL

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3443

I must admit I keep looking at these body jacks especially as I have a couple of double acting hydraulic rams with integral 24v motors making them self contained and have as much ram length as those seem to have.
Or it might be for a 'slide out' for camping, or.............

12th Feb 2015 3:26pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Supacat wrote:
jst wrote:
it was running bucket seats, harness locations were set up for that.

The shoulder straps are still well off, even for bucket seats - it's the angle they make to the floor fixing. Would be better if they were either wrap arounds on the horizontal element of the roll cage or if you want to keep the snap hooks then have them attach to the hoop legs.

none of the diagram apply as the shoulder straps go over a cage tube behind the seat , so in a impact the force of the person in the seat going forward the persons shoulders wont be pulled downwards

I agree if the belts just went over the back of the seat to the floor than that's no good

12th Feb 2015 3:43pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7752

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Supacat wrote:

Would be better if they were either wrap arounds on the horizontal element of the roll cage

like it shows they do in the picture from the rear, then to the floor mountings, same as the Bowler 50 trucks in the MSA comps.... Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop

12th Feb 2015 7:19pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

No - like this

12th Feb 2015 10:04pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Doesnt matter what there fixed to its the angle of the pull that matters

being they cant pull downwards on the shoulders because they go over the cage tube thats all that matters

12th Feb 2015 10:14pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

and does the spare wheel not get in the way of a straight line between the horizontal bar and the floor mounting for the harness?

12th Feb 2015 10:25pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

I know what you mean
personally i would have the belt points up level with seat/arch box and spaced same as top as it goes over the seat

12th Feb 2015 10:29pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

jst wrote:
like it shows they do in the picture from the rear, then to the floor mountings, same as the Bowler 50 trucks in the MSA comps....

Not sure which Bowler trucks you are referring to but the Bowler Defender Challenge vehicles did not have floor mountings

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12th Feb 2015 10:40pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7752

my mistake i thought they did, i had assumed this hardtop was the same as his 50 challenge one.

You obviously have an issue with Bowler, will leave you to it. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop

12th Feb 2015 10:44pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

I'm actually a fan of Bowler but not someone selling a vehicle with a harness setup that is now not appropriate - I missed the horizontal bar until Munch pointed it out, so that's a major plus point but the wrong seats and revised spare wheel storage can't be placed on Bowler can they?

Out of interest do you have any involvement with the place selling this vehicle?

12th Feb 2015 10:53pm

Lord Hemming

Member Since: 02 Feb 2015
Location: Kent
Posts: 125

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Adventure Corris Grey

Re: Bowler Doublecab

shaggydog wrote:
Visited Harwoods Tonbridge today and this caught my eye.

Figured it might catch some peoples eyes on here too!!

Some photos I took with a potato.

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From what I gather they are planning on fitting a rear roll bar style assembly on the rear with some roof lights. They are very excited about it and have had a lot of interest. Can't wait for it to be registered so I can take it for a spin

It still there parked outside...there must be a deal on this for a pre-reg (March is coming).

12th Feb 2015 11:39pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

or for choice there's this knocking about:

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one's £19,995 + VAT vs £43,000 + VAT (already reduced from original sticker price by £8,395 which is 13.99%).

Only one is a Bowler but they both appear similar from the outside.

13th Feb 2015 12:02pm

sweeney

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: East sussex
Posts: 55

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Sumatra Black

yeah collect tomorrow, don't pay too much attention to the sticker price.......

13th Feb 2015 3:24pm

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