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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456   
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No do not waste your money it's has been proved on a dyno that so called performance filters don't work stick with genuine
Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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28th Jul 2014 9:21pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Wot he said
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21125....ce+filters Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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28th Jul 2014 9:27pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507  
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Third'ed
Original paper far better, filters better, much cheaper and just as free flowing. Unless you are driving in constant dusty conditions, K+N will be an expensive gimmick ..  Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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29th Jul 2014 1:07pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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If I needed to drive in constant dusty conditions I for sure wouldn't want anything else than a paper filter.
They don't cost world. Just change them more often if needed. It's a two minute job instead of the time consuming cleaning, drying, spraying ritual of K&N type filters. |
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29th Jul 2014 1:17pm |
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| ronwong Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 120 
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Does different brands of paper filter matter? Our dealers here like to stock MANN
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30th Jul 2014 3:59pm |
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| Kevzeboy Member Since: 19 Jul 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 87 
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Mann is a premium grade filter. OE spec.
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30th Jul 2014 7:23pm |
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| ronwong Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 120
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So it's good stuff
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31st Jul 2014 1:03am |
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| glpinxit Member Since: 31 Jul 2010 Location: rural Somerset Posts: 159
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Why do you want an air filter at all? I think manufacturers put them on engines to ensure abrasive dust doesn't get into your engine and damage it or wear it out prematurely. So if you can hold a filter up to the light and see light through it then dust particles aren't getting filtered out. I would rather suffer a small performance penalty over needing a new engine. Your choice but every 'performance' filter I've seen allows a lot of light through. Cheers, Guy.
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3rd Aug 2014 10:47pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Okay - I should qualify what I said above...
The only foam filter I trust is from ITG. I have been on a lot (!) of forums and talked to various manufacturers about this. It doesn't increase engine performance, nor does ITG claim this (only that performance doesn't drop as much when the filter gets dirty). It also has to be cleaned every 50,000 km and retreated with filter "oil" (e.g. Motul). This is tricky to do properly. However, unlike K&N filters, the oil is "gooey" (it only contains thinners when it's sprayed on) and doesn't move around. I bought some K&N oil to experiment - it's like gun oil and I wouldn't let it near my engine  My MAF has been clean since new (57,000 km).
Negatively, the ITG filters are expensive. So if you're looking for initial high performance, don't bother with anything other than paper filter. In my case, I'm naturally inquisitive and I've found the ITG has some advantages for me: 1) It's water repellent, so my modified air (rain) intakes are unlikely to soak it solid. 2) It's not as deep as the foam filter so there is more height above the air intakes for air to "sit" and water to drop down. 3) You can't see through it. 4) I like cleaning things. Last time I cleaned it, a whole load of crap came out of the course foam at the bottom (it gets stuck there) but the very fine foam at the top was like new. No oil (or rather "glue") had passed through. I believe there is a place for good foam filters in certain cases. But only good ones. If you want better performance, buy a Ferrari Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Aug 2014 10:23pm |
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