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schweps



Member Since: 21 Oct 2014
Location: Zonguldak
Posts: 47

Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Hi Everybody,
I've installed a boost gauge with an easy setup (branch is taken from the pressure line from turbo outlet to injection pump upper diaphram) and an EGT sensor/gauge aswell.
For the time being I'm watching the engine performance. It's a 300tdi without EGR.
According to the service manual, I've to read 13,5 to 15,5 psi with full throttle whilst climbing a hill, steady engine speed around 2500-3000rpm. I can read 15psi values around 3000rpm @3rd, 4th and 5th gears. For 2nd gear, it could barely give 13psi @3000rpm. 1st gear is even worst. I can read 10psi @4000rpm.
Is this normal?
Cheers.
Senol
Post #494305 20th Jan 2016 8:46am
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Horneteer wrote:
Hi Guys, I've been thinking about this mod and thought I'd do a little experiment.

I got two boost gauges, connected them together and synchronised them so they read the same, using a bicycle pump to control the pressure in the hose.
One gauge was connected to the manifold using a banjo fitting as per the OP, and the other was connected into the wastegate/FIP connector at the turbo. The engine is an ex Disco 200Tdi in a 90, max boost is 15psi reached at 3000rpm and higher.

The Results: Both gauges moved at the same rate and reading 90% of the time. On occasions the turbo gauge was 1 to 2 psi higher than the manifold gauge generally around the 5 to 12psi range. This difference didn't last long as when the turbo gauge stopped climbing the manifold gauge soon caught up.



jst wrote:
i was thinking about this

wastegate off the manifold i can follow so its doesnt open until it sees full boost achieved at manifold (ie closer to inlet)

in essence then we are saying that if pressure is taken at turbo itself its a higher pressure than at the manifold.

so surely FiP is better having that higher pressure sooner to get the pin to depress quicker?

moving it to the manifold would make the FiP pressure feed lazy.


I'm with jst on this point

Conclusion:
If you want to do this mod, and your butt dyno feels a difference, then go ahead and do it. Personally I think I'll leave mine as LR designed it.


Thumbs Up Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #494981 21st Jan 2016 11:40pm
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schweps



Member Since: 21 Oct 2014
Location: Zonguldak
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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Hi,
No replies or comments?

schweps wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I've installed a boost gauge with an easy setup (branch is taken from the pressure line from turbo outlet to injection pump upper diaphram) and an EGT sensor/gauge aswell.
For the time being I'm watching the engine performance. It's a 300tdi without EGR.
According to the service manual, I've to read 13,5 to 15,5 psi with full throttle whilst climbing a hill, steady engine speed around 2500-3000rpm. I can read 15psi values around 3000rpm @3rd, 4th and 5th gears. For 2nd gear, it could barely give 13psi @3000rpm. 1st gear is even worst. I can read 10psi @4000rpm.
Is this normal?
Cheers.
Senol
Post #497778 29th Jan 2016 12:20pm
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MuddyChris300tdi



Member Since: 02 Mar 2014
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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 130 300 Tdi HCPU Alpine White
Schweps, i would have said it is because in 1st and 2nd there isn't much load on the engine, nothing to worry about.
Post #498276 30th Jan 2016 5:44pm
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jst



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if your seeing 15psi higher up gears i wouldnt worry. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #498302 30th Jan 2016 6:53pm
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schweps



Member Since: 21 Oct 2014
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Turkey 2005 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Thanks Chris and James,
So I will not bother with turbo pressure below 3rd gear.
Cheers.
Post #498369 30th Jan 2016 8:49pm
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