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ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

jim4244 wrote:
The current defender was good in its day, but it is now time to change.

Great, I encourage this change. It will only make our current Defenders even more of an icon with a 67 year history. Seriously doubt that the next one will last that long before being replaced again.
Nobody here bothers to look up when a modern Disco, RRS, FFRR or Eewok rolls by, but oh my, when a Defender is in sight, they all stretch their neck.

I am holding on to what I have now and intend to continue to take care of it for the next generation.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

23rd Jun 2014 6:51pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3140

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

mk1collector wrote:
With the diversity of people on this defender based forum, is it just me that finds it strange that the two people who have seen the new defender have recently joined and seem to be very coy on details? Maybe I'm just being too suspicious in thinking its Landrover trying to butter us up

I happen to agree. I think that at least some of the regular contributors who have recently bought new vehicles would have been invited along, I only live half an hour or so from Stoneleigh myself. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

23rd Jun 2014 6:54pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

^^I think Steve bull and jim4244 got the below put on their mouth by Land Rover there.

Now, looking that the title of this thread reads "New defender market research day" probably holds the answer. Our two members have probably not seen any definite new Defender yet, and Land Rover are still doing what is written in that title.

I would say, SEEING IS BELIEVING

You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

23rd Jun 2014 6:57pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

do a search on google "new defender stoneleigh park " and you find ?

NOTHING

23rd Jun 2014 7:15pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

^^ Yes, the first result that shows up is this here:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/post339755.html

23rd Jun 2014 7:19pm

SailingTom

Member Since: 19 Nov 2013
Location: ESSEX
Posts: 1709

mk1collector wrote:
With the diversity of people on this defender based forum, is it just me that finds it strange that the two people who have seen the new defender have recently joined and seem to be very coy on details? Maybe I'm just being too suspicious in thinking its Landrover trying to butter us up

I was thinking it to, there employees set about by land rover to spy on us and keep us in line like good land rover customers should be!!!
or im just paranoid

Defender puma dormobile camper

23rd Jun 2014 7:20pm

GUM97

Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3555

1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey

I agree with the suspicions

An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"

23rd Jun 2014 7:24pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

I wonder if my front tow ball mount I just made will bolt on to the plastic bumper on the new defender

23rd Jun 2014 7:26pm

jim4244

Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 645

1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

Let me assure you that nobody puts words in my mouth......

I had a 110 XS on loan from my dealership for a couple of days earlier this year. This was to see if my wife and I could use one as a third vehicle.

I found it slow in traffic with an unacceptable turning circle. It lacked safety features that we take for granted on other vehicles and there was no feel to the steering. I actually walked away quite disappointed as I had always fancied a 110.

If you like your current Defenders then good for you! I drove various LR's for 9 years whilst in the military so have some fond memories of 90's and 110's. Yes, I hope that your cars will increase in value and that nobody steals the bonnets, doors or entire car. However, in its current form, I personally could and would not live with a Defender as an everyday car.

I came on here today to give you a heads up on the Defender replacement, but nobody appears that interested.

If any of you pop over to the RRS forum you will see that I am an established member there.

Adios amigos, and may you have many, if uncomfortable, hours of fun in your Defenders

Jim

23rd Jun 2014 7:29pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Or you could tell us which pictures this new vehicle looks like because contrary to your suggestion this topic seems to have generated quite a bit of interest.

23rd Jun 2014 7:59pm

SailingTom

Member Since: 19 Nov 2013
Location: ESSEX
Posts: 1709

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Obviously were all interested or there wouldnt be a whole section on here.
By the sounds of your post though its just a DC100? In my mind (purely personal opinion) that isnt a defender replacement, just another range rover type product for a different market sector. No offence intended but by your post of it its more a car for people who want a defender but just a car as you describe yourself which dont go hand in hand. I use mine for work, admittedly not like some on here or utility type companies and put up with the issues as it has a rough charm about it.
By the sounds of it though the range rover sport and freelander forums are going to be more excited by the news than I for one am along with many others id guess

Defender puma dormobile camper

23rd Jun 2014 8:01pm

muddybaldboy

Member Since: 09 Apr 2012
Location: Ruthin
Posts: 395

jim4244 wrote:

I came on here today to give you a heads up on the Defender replacement, but nobody appears that interested.

Jim

It's probably because what JLR are showing isn't a Defender replacement. The Defender/Land Rover is getting the chop. End of!

JLR are just using this as an opportunity to launch their latest RR/Disco derivative.

I've been fortunate to own every model from new but that has always filtered down from my love of my first car, a beaten up, bomb proof SIII. Not any more. The diminishing heritage link has petered out for me. I'll always own Land Rovers but they've all been built now. My money will be used for maintaining and restoring. No more for JLR.

Please feel free to move to "grumpy old man" thread

He who dies with the most toys...wins!

23rd Jun 2014 8:24pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

I agree
I have owned land rovers all my driving life and my dad had land rovers before that , mine now is looked after and hope to have it for a while yet
but I find myself now thinking what make do I replace it with ,I've never looked a different make to own before
I don't think I would even want a new defender now , land rover seem to be cutting corners and on the forum I read about problems the bit older one never had
I remember when rover were stopping the proper mini , they seemed to not care and churned out some real cr@p
will the workers do good work on the last defender ?
will the main dealer worker want to work on them ? , having to strip a front hub to do discs and pads or just fit a disc over the hub like the other models

I looked at a brand new unregistered defender at royal Cornwall show , rust on the welds on chassis , rear crossmember faded really bad looked terrible , couldnt see any rustproofing

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23rd Jun 2014 9:05pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5085

2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green

jim4244 wrote:
I drove various LR's for 9 years whilst in the military so have some fond memories of 90's and 110's.

If the guy drove 110's in the military for 9 years why did it come as a surprise driving one of the more recent 110's.

Quote:
an unacceptable turning circle. It lacked safety features that we take for granted on other vehicles and there was no feel to the steering

Or is he trying to say that military 110s have great turning circles and comfort

I think the guy is perhaps not as genuine as he would like us to think.

23rd Jun 2014 9:05pm

dnorrishill

Member Since: 15 Jul 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 612

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

jim4244 wrote:
I came on here today to give you a heads up on the Defender replacement, but nobody appears that interested.

If any of you pop over to the RRS forum you will see that I am an established member there.

Adios amigos, and may you have many, if uncomfortable, hours of fun in your Defenders

Jim

Very strange attitude, start a thread saying you have seen something that you cannot tell us about, then say we are not interested enough then sign off with a unnecessary comment.

I find my defender very comfortable and will be like a pig in **** when I get the new one with premium seats.

Thinking about it, how strange that LR invite a RR owner to assess a new defender.

23rd Jun 2014 9:34pm

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