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mikeyp



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Jack Question...
Need a jack for my standard height 110 TD5, as stock one is broken.

Thinking of a bottle jack (cheap, Machine Mart). What jacking height do I need?

- 10 tonne one that has a Jack height of 200-420mm
- 4 tonne one that has a Jack height of 190-385mm

Or maybe a 4ft Hi Lift with the pin adapter ?

Only want to use it for spare wheel change in event of puncture, not home maintenance.

Suggestions pls...

(Apologies if this has been done a million times before...)

Thx !

Mike.
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LandRoverAnorak



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The four tonne one should be more than adequate. The others, particularly the hi-lift, are complete over kill for this application. Darren

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dnorrishill



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Only issue you will have with standard bottle jack is the shape of the top.

Look on ebay for a Discovery bottle jack - seen them go for £20 - they have a U shaped top which stops the axle slipping off.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/land-rover-bottl...3a8f69db77

Also you can find the same shape jack from a Mercedes Sprinter.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-SPRINTE...4d1bf72d4a
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mikeyp



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Cool. I see that Britpart do a Discovery type jack for ~£80+VAT

http://www.paddockspares.com/kaj100571-jack-assy-lifting.html

However I guess you could just use a standard bottle jack under a chassis rail, with a wooden block to spread the load between jack and rail?? That way, can use any old cheap bottle jack.

(Not keen on buying used from ebay - been stung before with tat that's not worth following up; plus am VAT registered business with takes sting out of buying new.)
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JWL



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I've got a LR bottle jack in my 110 and I've also got a 10t bottle jack from a 7.5t lorry. The lorry jack also fits underneath and I'll often use that one as it is slightly quicker than the LR one as you can spin the "extension" bit out instead of pumping the LR one out from the base.
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landys1



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dnorrishill wrote:
Only issue you will have with standard bottle jack is the shape of the top.

Look on ebay for a Discovery bottle jack - seen them go for £20 - they have a U shaped top which stops the axle slipping off.

.


As above, I got a disco bottle jack off ebay for my old 90 (for the U Shaped top) - just the job, fits in the under seat battery compartment perfectly Thumbs Up 1959 Series 2 Ragtop
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Happyoldgit



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£80 is quite enough for a ****part bottle jack. I wouldn't buy anything safety critical with their label on it, even if there was a chance it would turn up in a box with a green oval on it.

Just my humble opinion. Steve.
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custom90



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Bear in mind bottle jacks are useless on soft ground, and any kind of off road as you just won't get near there.
Also if the tyre is flat don't bet that you can get it under the axle as it will be so close to the ground.
Downside of the hi lifts though is their weight and bulk.
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Supacat



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mikeyp wrote:
Cool. I see that Britpart do a Discovery type jack for ~£80+VAT

http://www.paddockspares.com/kaj100571-jack-assy-lifting.html

However I guess you could just use a standard bottle jack under a chassis rail, with a wooden block to spread the load between jack and rail??


Not the best place to jack from given that you will need to raise the suspension to the limits before starting to raise the wheel and the final height can mean it all becomes a little unstable.
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
I have a Halfords 3 ton bottle jack, that is getting on a bit now that I keep in the landy, and just today, I bought a heavy duty, Halfords Professional 2.5 ton 4x4 trolley jack. All my work gets done on a gravel driveway, and bottle jacks are okish, but you need to shift the stones around a bit to get it flat. However, the reason I have just bought a trolley jack, is a few weeks ago, whilst trying to place the rear axle on two axle stands, the bottle jack slipped, (probably not 100% flat) and an axle stand buckled as the axle fell onto it.

I also bought today two more pro axle stands from Halfords. Got to do wheel bearings tomorrow, I've placed 4 stands under the axle just to be safe.

I have also had a bad experience with hi-lifts - I did an experiment with one, and the hi-lift jacked it up to about the same height as the limit of the bottle jack, and then the vehicle fell off the hi-lift. 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
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Supacat



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custom90steve wrote:
Bear in mind bottle jacks are useless on soft ground, and any kind of off road as you just won't get near there.


It's not just bottle jacks but any jack that relies on a small footprint will struggle off road - even HiLift jacks recognise this with pads to extend the footprint.
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Supacat



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Interlet wrote:
I have also had a bad experience with hi-lifts - I did an experiment with one, and the hi-lift jacked it up to about the same height as the limit of the bottle jack, and then the vehicle fell off the hi-lift.


Might seem harsh but I read that as you didn't set it up right and then blame it for falling over! Whistle
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
I may have entered the fold with a certain amount of bias based on what people had told me of the safety of hi-lift jack... when I used it myself and it fell off, whether it was set up properly or not, it was almost inevitable that my opinion on it would be in agreement, after it fell... I did put a flat board underneath it, perhaps, yes I could have done more! Rolling Eyes 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
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Supacat



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To be safe you need to get these guys in to help you with tyre changes:
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Supacat



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Perfect jack for the off-roader:


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