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Mick Clark



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Alantd
No the sides don't unbolt on the Brownchurch rack so agree no good for a rooftent.
Its great for putting the Oztent on though and everything else you might need.
Mick.
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Paul55



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Hi Robofarmer, the only whistle I hear is me sitting happily behind the wheel, no noise at all (bearing in mind I've not had anything on top yet, know saving for Howling Moon rooftent). Had a bit of loss with the mpg doing small local runs, however last weekend went up to Boston and Horncastle and had 320 out of the tank, so was well happy Mr. Green . Patriots are pricey Big Cry but well worth the money. Cogito ergo sum
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fekete



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I've got the front runner is as noisy as hell the paint peels if i was you i'd go for the Patriot Thumbs Up

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AndrewS



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I have a Hannibal its gets used once or twice a week carrying all sorts for work and play, Its as strong as fook however its very light compared to the other racks that are available.


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discocuzzy



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Yep, Hannibal and Patriot both have the supports running front to back therefore a lot less noise than the frontrunner that has them from side to side.

Andrews right about the hannibal being lighter, its a 2-3 man job putting the patriot on a 110. You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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ken



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That PIc has made my mind up about a power Plant

So a Want95Ti will be up for grabs soon
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alantd



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2 questions:

Andrews - what lights are those, mounted to your rack?

Is the Hannibal really much lighter than the Patriot? I would have thought that they were both Aluminium so would weigh approximately the same. I was planning to get a Patriot but I have to say I'm increasingly attracted to the Hannibal. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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discocuzzy



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Al, patriot is a heavy old lump, hannibal is a lot lighter...i like the reasuringly heavy feel though, makes my suspension work better!!! Shocked You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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alantd



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discocuzzy wrote:
Al, patriot is a heavy old lump, hannibal is a lot lighter...i like the reasuringly heavy feel though, makes my suspension work better!!! Shocked


Ha ha Rolling with laughter

I just worry about putting a huge amount of weight high up. If I'm adding 20kg extra on the roof just in the rack then that's a jerry can I can't carry. You've uprated your suspension, though haven't you? One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #27595 21st Mar 2010 9:16am
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discocuzzy



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Just the springs and the ride is very harsh withouth the rack Thumbs Up
To be honest, you dont really notice the extra weight, doesnt affect the handling to much Thumbs Up You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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Robofarmer



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Well i was going to toss a coin between the hannibal and the patriot racks but you guys on about weight and the ride on harder suspension which i,m bound to play with one day!!! looks like the patriot you get that bit more for your pound!!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up now for the finish black powder coat,d or alloy Question Question
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fekete



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Paul55



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AndrewS



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Ken
You will need a new bumper as well.

alantd
They are KC DayLighters

The Hannibal weights are 90 = 35kg, 110 = 40kg

The Patriot weights are not available.

It would not surprise me to find that the Patriot racks are twice the weight of the Hannibal ones. Please dont think I'm slagging the Patriot rack, far from it they are a superb bit of well engineered kit. I just dont see the point of carrying extra weight when its not necessary.
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ken



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Yep I guess a D44 one then Whistle
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