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Josh K



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
Failed headlight switch
I believe that my 90 has a failed headlight switch. The sidelights work but when I push the switch forward to turn the headlights on, it all goes dark! The garage is going to confirm whether it is the switch when it's in for a service on tuesday but they have quoted £105 + vat for the new part. Looking on paddocks though they have 4 versions of the switch and all a lot cheaper. Is my garage trying to pull a fast one? Can anyone confirm which one on paddocks it is so i can show the garage how outrageous their price is. Looking for the correct switch to fit a RHD 2007 Puma.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
Looking for another to replace it.

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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic16451....ght+switch

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic24666....ght+switch

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic13683....ght+switch If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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ZeDefender



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Or buy this harness:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic26097.html
It takes a couple of hours to fit and comes with a "free" new switch Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Josh K



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
So after a bit of research, rimmer bros are selling genuine LR switches online for £103+vat so I've ordered a Lucas one which including delivery to the most northern wastelands of Scotland is less than £50. So next question is can i replace it myself or is it a job for the garage? I'm hoping it's a case of taking the plastic steering wheel column bits off, removing the old switch and putting the new one in and returning the plastic bits. Does that sound about right? 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
Looking for another to replace it.

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Post #302446 26th Jan 2014 10:35pm
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Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness"
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Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas made the refrigerators, too.
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Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!" Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #302455 26th Jan 2014 10:57pm
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Eduardo



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Josh K wrote:
So next question is can i replace it myself or is it a job for the garage? I'm hoping it's a case of taking the plastic steering wheel column bits off, removing the old switch and putting the new one in and returning the plastic bits. Does that sound about right?


Yep,

No more than that.
If I remember well:
Take out first the piece that are at the bottom of the instrument panel (2 screws), then the upper and the lower cover of the steering column (need a little bit of play to take out but finally goes out).
Loose the nut that keep the switch in place, change it and then, reverse engineering. The covers are a little bit dificult to put and take out. Remember that a grommet is located at the left: dont forget to put it during the installation.
No more than 1 hour work

Cheers and good luck Eduardo

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Post #302495 27th Jan 2014 5:46am
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ZeDefender



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Perhaps fit one of these too whilst you've got it apart
http://www.x-eng.co.uk/instructions/new/x-DefendColumn.pdf
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But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #302561 27th Jan 2014 1:58pm
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Gareth



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Just tried to order one of these, and X Eng are out of stock.

EDIT But FCX have them in Thumbs Up 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
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Post #302619 27th Jan 2014 6:04pm
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Josh K



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
ZeDefender wrote:
Perhaps fit one of these too whilst you've got it apart
http://www.x-eng.co.uk/instructions/new/x-DefendColumn.pdf
Thumbs Up


I definitely want to get one of those to add another layer of security but the truck is in for a service in the morning and funds won't allow it this month Crying or Very sad 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
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Post #302668 27th Jan 2014 8:14pm
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munch90



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England 
wonder if the later headlight switches are weaker than the older ones , in my 93 k reg tdi I had 80/100 ( I think I tried some 100/120 for a while ) bulbs and never had relays and never had any switch problems only had 1 bulb connector melt ( but I've seen that happen with standard bulbs )
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I.AM_a driver



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Scotland 2002 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Oslo Blue
I had the same problem, didn't take long to swap them over, & I think i also went for the Lucas part from Rimmer Bros.

Having sidelights only made for an interesting commute to work for 6am.... Shocked Mark S
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Josh K



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
Mine had failed 20 miles south of Inverness - and I still had 120 miles to go!!! Luckily mine could still work if I could get the switch to stick halfway between sidelights and headlights. My local garage put a blob of solder on the switch free of charge when it was in for its service yesterday so the switch is in my toolbox as a spare for next time. 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
Looking for another to replace it.

The road less travelled.... is a muddy one!
Post #303081 29th Jan 2014 12:17pm
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I.AM_a driver



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Scotland 2002 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Oslo Blue
I was able to use my driving lights on my A-bar as dipped or main beam, as no amount of persuasion or fiddling with the switch would get the headlights to come on.

If you ever need a staging post on your trips to/from the north drop me a line, fellow defender owners are always welcome Smile Mark S
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Post #303084 29th Jan 2014 12:22pm
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Josh K



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
I.AM_a driver have you got a brother named Chris? I met Chris last year in Oxfordshire while we were training for the same job and he was from Edinburgh, with a brother called Mark who was part of Lothian 4x4 response. Coincidence? 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
Looking for another to replace it.

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I.AM_a driver



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is that the sound of a penny dropping..... Laughing

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