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equipe59



Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Stornoway Grey
Strange starting conundrum
Hopefully someone out there on our wonderful forum can help with my starting issue! Confused

It has always started without any problem, but recently it's started playing up. Occasionally I'll turn the key and at Position 1 it's all fine - all idiot lights on etc., then on to P2 and there's nothing at all - all the dash lights go out, no spinning starter, no clicking. Turn off, try again and it may repeat or it may start without any problem!

The battery was a tired, cheapo Halfords unit, so I've changed that for a new genuine Land Rover one, but it's still displaying the same problem Big Cry

My next thought is either the relay, solenoid or engine earth, but I'd welcome any ideas or input as to what the most likely culprit will be before I start taking bits out!

Thanks in advance Thumbs Up
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Is it high milage? What about warn ignition barrel

Andy
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equipe59



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Stornoway Grey
Mileage is 130k, but the ignition barrel 'feels' pretty good. It rotates ok, but I'll check the electrical continuity tomorrow evening and see if it's starting to fail.
Post #291250 17th Dec 2013 10:12pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Sticking or worn starter solenoid or the small wire has fallen off the back of the starter? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
Check the earthing strap on the engine and the battery. Both ends each.
Almost certainly that. 
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equipe59



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Stornoway Grey
Thumbs Up fab, I'll work through it all bit by bit tomorrow and update as to what it was!
Post #291254 17th Dec 2013 10:22pm
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Diablo



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Dare I ask how much a genuine battery was?

Amazed people buy them
Post #291262 17th Dec 2013 10:43pm
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equipe59



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Stornoway Grey
A genuine battery was not cheap! Shocked Well over £150, and that's with my discount.

But......it's an 800A/120amp-hr battery, and is substantially bigger and heavier than the Halfords 'original spec' unit it replaced, which was 78amp-hr. The only type of battery I've seen that comes close spec-wise is a light commercial vehicle one, and they're no cheaper and/or the wrong size.

Still, I've found over the years that proper OE stuff generally works/fits/lasts substantially better than pattern bits.
Post #291273 17th Dec 2013 10:57pm
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Diablo



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Kerrrrist!


I'll stick with my £50 Bosch S5 from Costco I think!
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blackwolf



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A genuine battery is also the only kind I know which will last over ten years and 200,000 miles, which actually makes it pretty good value in my book!
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grafty99



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
My 2002 90 is on the original battery, I would replace it with a genuine one Thumbs Up

Also it might be worth pulling out the speedo and checking the connections on the back of the ignition barrel 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
What about the battery in the remote plipper? and/or the excitor ring thing that's around the ign barrel...

(assuming you've got an alarm set up on yours)... the excitor ring looks for the plipper then "unlocks" the passive immobilisation.

I'd be looking at those first.
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130dreamer



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Had exactly the same symptoms a few months back.
It turned out to be a worn starter solenoid. They are cheap to replace, about £10 from ebay (an ebay search reveals a number of suppliers)

It is an OK job to do yourself if a bit fiddly to get the top starter motor bolt off. If you do a google search there are a number of forum postings on how to remove the td5 starter motor.

Some garages will tell you the whole starter motor needs replacing but the £10 option would be my first port of call.
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