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| Dave T Member Since: 07 Jun 2013 Location: Glasgow Posts: 487   
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At least you have found something solid now, just hope it was the problem and not damaged anything else. 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
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13th Jan 2014 1:31pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50 
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Hi Dave
Yep fingers crossed. Hope to have the parts for the weekend. There's murmurings of a trip to Drumclog, but the bog must be overflowing. |
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14th Jan 2014 10:44am |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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I must of done something really bad for this to be messing with my karma.
Still not running. Sounds to me like no fuel. This is either caused by air in the system or electrickery. So far to date: Cranksensor Fuel pump Fuel filter Air bleed vlave Injector washers & seals 2nd hand injector (x1) & rocker rail Injector loom Rocker seal These have all been replaced. Battery charged, several times Fuel system purged several times Tow start Power is to the Ecu Ecu tested OK by Alive No faults on nanaocom other than ABS & Aircon Ecu reads not immobilised. Still dosen't even try to fire. My thoughts are change filter head, replace filter gauze at fuel regulator. Remove pipes from fuel regulator to make sure all air is removed. Electric wise, check voltage at crank sensor replace starter motor. And then it's continuity checks of loom / replace. Is there anything I'm missing? |
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20th Jan 2014 11:27am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3247  
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I may have missed it but did you program the new injector into the ECU ?
Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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20th Jan 2014 1:05pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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Yep injector coded.
I've read that starter motors can give a signal which shuts down the injectors & crank sensor readings. I was hoping that tow starting would elliminate this. Whilst cranking, nancom reads 0 for rpm. Is this normal or my problem? |
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20th Jan 2014 9:57pm |
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| Ragerover Member Since: 27 Dec 2013 Location: In a land far far away Posts: 145
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Had a similar problem
Even changed starter and battery Fuel pump etc Spoke to Porny of this parish He suggested a starter fault ... Didn't believe him But decided to bump it lo and behold ran great Changed the starter good as new Seemingly there's a signal sent from starter which tells the injectors to open Worth trying to bump it |
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20th Jan 2014 11:21pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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I have read about the starter motor and just can't work out why it should shut down the engine. New starter on order anyway, but the bump start didn't work.
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21st Jan 2014 10:31am |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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Starter motor fitted.
Took it for a long tow start. didn't try to fire. Nanocom shows zero RPM. This must be fault if the ecu doesn't think its turning over. I've taken the earths off to give them a clean but I'm now convinced either my new crank sensor is faulty or that when the ecu was tested ok - it wasn't. When looking at 2nd hand ecu's. What does the code mean? I have a 10p engine with a msb ecu. Can I fit any ecu and write the alarm and injectors to it? |
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26th Jan 2014 8:27pm |
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| TTF Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 305
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I am not the most technical but had something similar (and was told very common), took up the driver seat base, tapped the relays (two yellow next to each other, fuel I think) and worked fine ever since.
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26th Jan 2014 8:55pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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All ready tried swapping relays over.
Main relay (yellow) Under the seat Glow plug relay (black) under seat Fuel pump relay (green) at fuse panel forward of gearstick. Some cars this will be under seat. |
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26th Jan 2014 9:12pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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Latest update.
I gave the ECU you my mate who also drives a defender of the same age. He plugged it into his car, deactivated the immobiliser (heard relays click etc) his car would turn but not fire. - Same symptoms. Neither of us have LandRover immobilisers. We didn't do any coding of the ecu. I had been told by a landy garage you can swap ecu from similar type & age of vehicles. No need to code, it would run rough. Took the lid off my ecu today to see evidence of water and corrosion. Circled is where there is contamination between the chips. Also obvious on some nuts and other components. Maybe electrical cleaner will fix it, maybe it's too late.  Click image to enlarge  |
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2nd Feb 2014 12:24pm |
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| Ruari Member Since: 10 Dec 2013 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 50
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With thanks to online bidding site i got myself an identical number'd msb... ecu.
Plug it in and I coded injectors - wouldn't start. You need to make your ecu learn the 10as landrover security code. You can do this with nanocom. Once this was done it coughed and weezed before coming into full running order. Back on the road. Thankyou to everyone for the help. A learning curve to which I found some other lurking issues. |
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3rd Feb 2014 12:07pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4405
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Great stuff, well done for sorting it.
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7th Feb 2014 12:13am |
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