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Sphere Member Since: 26 Apr 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 725 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That seams expensive for just a cross member as a guy by me is only quoting just over 2k for a galvanised chassis swap.
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 ![]() ![]() |
Quite. It is 1600 for an entire new galvenised chassis. If you are for it do the swap yourself and never have any of the rot problems again... |
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Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If funds are short i would patch repair the rear cross member while you do some phoning around to find a repairer to replace it when funds permit.
Whats the problem with the swivels ? is it just play or are they badly pitted ? If its play then its just a matter of removing shims to take up the play, If they are pitted and leaking then its still a DIY job. Mr Haynes is your friend ! 2005 Td5 90 XS Steve |
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shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sorry Should have been more specific.
The swivel pins are warn so they need replacing which I'm not scared to do because its not difficult. The center beam joint is a bit more of a task as they can be bar-stewards to release which is why most people just drop the whole assembely and forget about it... I dont have the time or space or money to do a galve chassis swap as much as id like to and the rest of the chassis is in 99% condition, its just the rear crossmsmber where the last owner didn't clean it out properly has rotten away. From what I understood from the man at Lr he said where the chassis rails meets the Crossmember so a fairly structural place. As I say if I can fix it I will have a damn good go but will have to drop the fuel tank to do so which again, time. |
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GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Look here at the prices for new rear cross members ...
http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/land-rove...ssmembers/ Even with outrageous hourly labour charges, I'm really struggling to justify £1500! Over £1200 in labour? I don't think so! An engine to TDi for! "Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948" ![]() |
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Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You may not neeed to remove the fuel tank if the rot is only on the outer side of the chassis rail.
I doubt the swivel pins are worn as i posted earlier its usually just a matter of de-shimming the top swivel to eliminate the play in the tapered roller bearings. 2005 Td5 90 XS Steve |
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bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
These may be worth a call:
http://www.themanforlandrovers.com/ in East Hoathly. Never used them. http://www.rcv.co.uk/ in Paddoc Wood. Used twice both times were excellent service. Gigglepin you already know. Believe it or not but Horsepower in Tonbridge have an excellent name sell loads of Land Rovers and were Harwoods LR MOT centre for ages until they build the new dealership http://www.horsepower-motor-centre.co.uk/. I have bought 2 faultless cars fron them in the last couple of years. Hope the above helps. BM52 |
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shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Bit More info, Its a pre-td5 110.
The replacement rear cross members look good, I'd probebly go for a heavy duty 3mm one just to give myself some piece of mind, does anyone have any experiance with this? @Lou: Hear what your saying on the shims, I'll have a good poke and root around tomorrow to see if it see if it has any Shims to remove. If so then should cross that off nicely. |
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lukev01 Member Since: 24 Mar 2012 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 412 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't know if this will help but my S2A is having its rear cross-member replaced in 1 week at Rogers of Bedford.
They have told me that it will come to a total of £500 - £600 inclusive of labour, so it might be worth giving them a ring. ![]() From Kent it would be worth a 1 - 2 hour trip. They have always looked after my Series 2A brilliantly ![]() HTH Luke 1970 Series 2A 88" |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8347 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
the last rear cross member we did took half a day (tdi 90 hardtop) no rear fuel tank to move. its was £151 + VAT Bearmach part from Exeter 4x4 store.
£1500 is ridiculous. If its just where the legs meet, then just cut out the bad bit and fill the hole. A frame, easiest and simplest is buy a joint and the fitting and drop the whole lot in as you say. if your doing swivels from wear (how did they determine that - they leaking?) it would be worth doing complete hub revuilds - King pins, hub bearings etc. Cheers James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thank You for all the reply’s guys.
Now its failed its Mot it’s a bit more difficult because it’s no longer road legal so cant travel too far. I'll take some photos tomorrow and upload (when I figure out how) to show you guys. When I'm there I'll have a long discussion with them to discuss what the options are- get it all costed in paper then have a ring round see if they can match it. I think it may be a case of they don't want to do it so are being purposefully expensive. Unfortunately I can't call there bluff... |
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Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You are allowed to drive to and from a place of repair or for a retest without a current MOT. 2005 Td5 90 XS
Steve |
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TD5_dan Member Since: 24 Feb 2012 Location: Essex Posts: 449 ![]() ![]() |
Only place I would be going for a crossmember is here, end of!
Clive is a top bloke and you will not get a better crossmember anywhere in the UK http://www.blacksheepoffroad.co.uk/Site/Products.html 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold 1970 Series 2A Station Wagon 1970 Series 2A hard top 1960 Series 2 1972 Series 3 |
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landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5982 ![]() ![]() |
Just what I was about to say, but spent to long to find his website
http://www.blacksheepoffroad.co.uk/Site/Products.html Andy |
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