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jimbob7



Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
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205 tyre is slightly bigger than the previous standard fit 750.
Post #276141 23rd Oct 2013 8:46pm
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Mdm



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And many landys I have had

I use them to get mine in the garage over winter

They were also fitted to many disco 1 alloys
Post #276142 23rd Oct 2013 8:46pm
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lambert.the.farmer



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England 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Rutland Red
Being Devils advocate for a moment but why is it the garages fault they've done what you asked and put new tyres on, you have altered the size of the tyres not them so it is up to you to be sure that the new tyres fit. If you had just asked for new tyres the garage would have replaced like for like on the size front and if there was a rubbing issue then that would be their problem. In this case the responsibility is yours. Oh and as has been said the fix is very simple and will only take a few minutes with a couple of spanners. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
Post #276146 23rd Oct 2013 8:49pm
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DAZ110



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
What is the offset on the Smiths Alloy wheels?
Post #276164 23rd Oct 2013 9:12pm
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JSG



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Macpaul wrote:
They are (or at least were) standard equipment on my hardtop.


They were standard on 90 base spec models. John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS
Post #276174 23rd Oct 2013 9:25pm
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CEEGEE



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Oh, okay a few points raised......... I think 205's have been/are fairly standard on lower spec vehicles.

Mine started life as a basic hard top, so has perhaps had 205's on all its life to date, with perhaps an upgrade to the alloys at some point, from the original steel wheels.

I use the garage who put the tyres on for servicing and repair on a number of other cars. They are not just a tyre fitter, and to be honest, I expect (and usually get) a "value added" service, where if I have "missed something" (as I appear to have in my brief to them here), then they would point it out.

I am not "cross" with them, just slightly disappointed, and I am sure they will remedy it without a problem.

Thanks for all the feedback.
Post #276175 23rd Oct 2013 9:25pm
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custom90



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I think they did right but they should have perhaps mentioned it to you to check it and if required get it adjusted to suit. Being a tyre shop I'd imagine they are limited in what they are allowed to do, by this I mean insurance most likely. After all they will have to have insurance so are bound to do only allocated work, if they break something it will cost money accidental or not. They would be expected to do it or okay for it elsewhere.
If I was you I would get the stops adjusted at the dealers or a good Indy that are more mechanically capable than tyre fitters.
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Post #276176 23rd Oct 2013 9:32pm
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Timo K



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jimbob7 wrote:
205 tyre is slightly bigger than the previous standard fit 750.


Most definitely isn't.

205's are pretty much bang on 29" tall, 7.50R16's are nearly identical in diameter to 235/85R16, which in return are over 2" taller, around the 31-32" mark.

Gearing would be significantly lowered and I think my 300Tdi is already in need of a sixth gear on motorways, running standard 235/85R16 tyres. Not to mention the look of it. Bigger isn't always better but surely it must look a bit comical with such pram wheels under it??

It's not only the width of the tyre and the offset of the wheel that matter, it's also the diameter. A larger diameter (but same width) tyre on the same wheel will "reach out" further and be able to rub.
Post #276237 24th Oct 2013 8:52am
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22900013A



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A 205 is indeed a smaller tyre than a 7.50, although they are very similar in width, a 7.50 has taller sidewalls.

When changing from 205s (which so far as I know still are standard fit on base spec 90s) to 235s/7.50s you will have also knocked the speedo out from true, probably be an idea to get that sorted before you get speeding fines. 2011 110 USW
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Post #276248 24th Oct 2013 9:49am
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blackwolf



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Although since speedometers are always setup to over-read (ie indicate faster than actual speed) you may find that it becomes spot-on if you fit larger tyres.

My Disco 2 speedo became spot on when I fitted 245/75x16 BFG Muds (it's not so good now it's on 265/75x16s though). My Puma became spot on when I fitted 285/75x16 BFG Muds.

For both vehicles the accuraccy was checked with a home-office approved timing device over a measured mile at a range of speeds.
Post #276262 24th Oct 2013 11:01am
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JSG



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22900013A wrote:
A 205 is indeed a smaller tyre than a 7.50, although they are very similar in width, a 7.50 has taller sidewalls.

When changing from 205s (which so far as I know still are standard fit on base spec 90s) to 235s/7.50s you will have also knocked the speedo out from true, probably be an idea to get that sorted before you get speeding fines.


I didn't mention that because as he has a 110 the 205s won't have been standard - most likely fitted by a previous owner as he got them cheap?

Worth checking now you mention it though just incase it had also been changed. John

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2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS
Post #276273 24th Oct 2013 11:25am
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CEEGEE



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Thanks for all the feedback.

All sorted with a small adjustment and no charge from my garage Thumbs Up
Post #276391 24th Oct 2013 7:08pm
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BigWheels



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205s or 215s are the radial recommended replacement for 650 cross plys. So for SWB where smaller wheels look less undersized. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #276397 24th Oct 2013 7:22pm
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