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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725  
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So i bought a 'racechip' for my 2.4 110 as here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Performance-Box-...4abb3d3c08 And i just thought id post my experience so far (roughly 2 weeks use) Firstly, quoted power/torque gains are: +32bhp (122 -> 154bhp) and torque +76Nm (360 -> 456Nm) Id say that 0-60mph has dropped by a second or two (youre not going to win any drag races still) but driveability has increased a lot more. Much better throttle response and it pulls through the gears much better. No added smoke or vibrations, just a subtly smoother running engine with a more torquey feel. The most obvious increase is when you overtake in 3rd/4th/5th, the acceleration is obviously much better. For £100 im very impressed, its better than the £400 Chip express one which i returned because i was a bit underwhelmed for the price tbh, and needed the £££. MPG- i always take my MPG when filling up, and it varies from 23-27 usually, last 2 with tuning box have been 24.9 and 26, so no real change but im probably driving more aggressively with the newfound speed 
Definitely worth considering before you spend 3,4,5,6,7 hundred pounds on a remap, and as mine is still under warranty i simply un plug it when its in the dealer. Its been on diagnostics twice since i fitted it (having removed it when they had it) for an EGR fault and not spotted/mentioned. towing is much better too, and may just be me but i feel like the engine isnt working as hard when i put my foot down and let it get to 2750+ rpm with the trailer, and the engine note is possibly a bit grumblier than before, but i have had a couple faults (EGR etc) sorted so could be that. Overall id say  and very good value, only £100 ish
Hope this helps someone, ill keep an eye on mpg and long term effects and let you know. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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8th Aug 2013 10:59am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6489 
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See my comments last year about plug-in boxes: http://www.defender2.net/forum/post151803.html#151803
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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8th Aug 2013 11:07am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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Yeah seen that before, but a proper remap is £450+ and mine was £100 inc shipping. It's cheap and cheerful, and does what it says on the tin. And being able to simply remove it is a big plus for me. Just to clarify, is anyone saying that Tuning boxes do harm in the long run, or are people just saying that you're better off getting a remap to get the best results? I'm happy with the results at the price, and when my warranty runs out I can probably start to play around with remaps etc., but for now - as long as no damage is being done - I'm happy (and not broke!) Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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8th Aug 2013 11:15am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6489
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Well it's your engine at risk - up to you if you want to do that.
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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8th Aug 2013 11:20am |
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| pjb Member Since: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Sunny Oxford Posts: 1244 |
DW just be careful what you post on an open forum - Land Rover do look at the site in fact we encourage their participation
Just search defender tuning box in google & see your post 
Not being a kill joy & do appreciate postings on products etc but just do not want you top come a cropper if you have a problem because of a user review
Although you are nearly out of warranty now 2020 P300 HSE |
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8th Aug 2013 11:35am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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good point, will keep it to a minimum! and have extended warranty atm Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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8th Aug 2013 11:37am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3332
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I tried the bluespark 'economy' plug in box on the 2.4 110 I had.
Must admit, it was a tad quicker but the economy was exactly the same as without it so sent it back after a couple of weeks..... Went for the superchips bluefin reprogamable remap in the end at around the £300 mark. Plenty more poke and about the same mpg. Got a 2.2 now and sticking with the standard set up for a while..... |
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8th Aug 2013 2:59pm |
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| Norm4n Member Since: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 329
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I went for middle ground, spent a bit more than your 100.
Got the Superchips plug and play thingy. Reputable company, been in business for years, I appreciate its not bespoke. Has been very good |
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8th Aug 2013 3:13pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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£100 for a resistor you can get from any electrical wholesaler for about 50p. "Rodney I've been had!"
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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8th Aug 2013 3:13pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456 
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I know a certain tuner that fitted one of these boxes to a brand new BMW factory figs were 220hp and 300lb/ft torque with box fitted 120hp and 200lb/ft torque and this was done on a dyno lol
So be leave what you want a bout the boxes but I certainly wouldn't touch one with a barge pole ! Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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8th Aug 2013 4:21pm |
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| theorangebandit Member Since: 03 Jun 2013 Location: Stowmarket Posts: 862 |
It's funny how mechanics and engineers steer well clear of these yet because an engineer recommends it to someone that has no idea how the evil device makes the car faster, they buy it.
Your engine will break your EGR faults are probably directly linked to the box. Save for a map Last edited by theorangebandit on 8th Aug 2013 5:07pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Aug 2013 4:23pm |
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| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555 
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As stated previously, I would steer well clear. There's a reason why people go to the well reputed companies for tuning etc. An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948" |
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8th Aug 2013 4:51pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2604  
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OP: now put some money aside every month for an engine rebuild/new engine for when yours goes *BANG* --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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9th Aug 2013 10:13am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2725
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Has anyone actually had/heard of this happen? If I want a REMOVABLE remap; where do I go? FYI these companies have literally 1000s of positive feedbacks eBay etc. but I'll listen to the advice if we think they're a problem? Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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9th Aug 2013 10:26am |
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