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eutek



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Bungee cords?
Hi all,

Hope this is in the right section - apologies in advance if not!

I'm due to fit a Patriot rack to my 110 shortly, and I was curious how to fasten loads to the the rack itself

One of the first tasks is to recover (amongst other things) 4x wheels & tyres for my wife's car, I was going to put them on the rack because the cargo area will be full of other things. Will bungee cords suffice?

I'll be on motorway for a good portion of the trip, and I'd not want the things to blow off and hit another motorist... that would be catastrophic!

Thanks!
Post #18919 27th Nov 2009 9:23am
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110SEB



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I would steer well clear of bungee cords. As well as being unreliably strong/weak, they're bloody lethal when they snap. I nearly blinded my father-in-law a few weeks back.

Screwfix.com do very cheap and good quality ratchet straps - far more useful, much stronger, longer, more versatile, more reliable, not dangerous and will hold Mrs eutek's wheels to the rack very well.

Apart from anything, the Rozzers might object to wheels being secured with glorified elastic bands!

All in all then, i think it's safe to say i do not like bungee cords! I accept they have their uses, but not for bearing load in my opinion.

Sorry... it's friday!
Post #18920 27th Nov 2009 9:27am
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jst



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ratchet straps would get my vote, 1" ones would do. thats what i use with the rack anyway Cheers

James
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Post #18931 27th Nov 2009 12:36pm
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alantd



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Definitely ratchet straps. If you need them quickly then you can pick them up from B&Q or Halfords too. You'll probably pay £1 more but who cares.

Don't the hannibal racks have those eye-bolt fastners that run down the extruded channels of the bars? Has anyone used them and are they a good solution? One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #18935 27th Nov 2009 1:00pm
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eutek



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Thanks guys for the advice.

I have to admit that I didn't like the idea of using bungee cords either. I was thinking that I'd secure the wheels with those oversized cable ties that the police use nowadays instead of handcuffs, I never even thought of ratchet straps.

The ratchet straps are a much better idea, thanks for suggesting 'em.

Related to this... do you know if there are any restrictions as to driving on European motorways with a loaded roof rack? A friend who does this route much more often than I do was telling me that you're not allowed to take a roof-laden vehicle on some of the German motorways, which I find hard to believe!
Post #18937 27th Nov 2009 1:18pm
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mse



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Some other good straps - possibly just behind ratchets are the straps that self tighten (name escapes) you pull through the strap and it compresses - when the name comes ill post it.

Bungee cords are leathal in my opinion Mike
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Eduardo



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Rachet straps all the way.

I had it for around 3 years to load my roof rack without any single problem
Easy to install, versatile, and quite cheap.

Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #18951 27th Nov 2009 4:13pm
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AndrewS



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Cibit wrote:
Learn a ploughmans hitch Wink


AHHH those were the days, I remember when ratchet straps first came out on the market, the company I worked for at the time would not let us buy those 'new fangled posh extravagant tie down' things Rolling Eyes
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diesel_jim



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I remember doing these knots when i was on bale cart working on farms in the summer. nice and quick to tie once you get the knack.
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double cab happy



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dam i always thought i was really cleaver that i came up with my own knot that gets really tight, now i read that its got a name and its not MARK'S knot Sad

i'm mark by the way.


p.s watch where you use ratchet straps as i have (only once) pull'd roof bars closer together with the things, saying that Stan Lee did write a story about me when i spilt some green paint on myself, i wish Big Cry
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eutek



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Resurrected an older thread... just curious, do you guys go for the ratchet straps with the hook on the end?

I've not sorted the roof rack yet, it will most likely be between a Patriot or a Hannibal.
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Laurie



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If you go for ratchet straps, do not buy yellow, orange or red ones. UV degrades the pigment and severely reduces the strength to the point that, after six months exposure, they will pull apart in your hands. Blue, green and black are fine.
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Eduardo



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Hi eutek

We use with hooks. Our rack have several anchor rings welded/bolted to attach it.

By the way, I have the yellow ones for almost 2 years and with the proper care (stored in a pocket when not used, not direct contact with cutting edges) still are working OK.

Probably Laurie are rigth with the low quality straps, better to be in the safer side.

Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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eutek



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Amazing the things you can find out here. Many thanks guys! Bow down
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