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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
feeling a little embarassed.....
a tiny bit of snow and the car wouldn't start......

with all the problems I've had I wasn't in the mood for peeing around so straight on the phone to LRA having tried 3 times to start the engine.........

LRA turn up, turn the key and - it started. stoped it and started it - actually sounded silky smooth Embarassed



he reckoned it was the immobiliser.......didn't do anything different to usual so a little concerned but I have to say its running GREAT at the moment.

ps. last night I gave the MAP sensor another good blast with carb cleaner..... Whistle and a blast on contact spray on the MAP and MAF sensor plugs. Whistle Whistle
Post #221108 22nd Mar 2013 12:56pm
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ZeDefender



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Re: feeling a little embarassed.....
Caterham wrote:
LRA turn up, turn the key and - it started.


Now it's just taking the pi$$ Rolling with laughter Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Caterham



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either the car is ....

or I am


Rolling with laughter getting my own back Laughing
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Grockle



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yep imobiliser,quite common. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
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Dave-H



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Grockle wrote:
yep imobiliser,quite common.


Mine does this on occasion ...... just lock/unlock motor with the fob and that always clears it on mine Thumbs Up Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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Caterham



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strange had the car over 2 years and its never happened before - so don't know what I did different.

anyhow main thing is all seems good now.

I just need to wait for some good weather to do a few jobs.

dynamat
new carpets
door seal
bonnet cable

and thats just the bits I've got ready to fit
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good weather Big Cry .....england Big Cry hmmm Banging Head Thud
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Caterham



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looks like I'll have to take the parts with me on holiday Very Happy

not sure hwmbo will like that Shocked
Post #221341 23rd Mar 2013 11:11am
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achuakh



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I had this happened to me and there are times it doesn't start and times it starts perfectly. Took me a few months to figure it out.

My starter innards were wearing out. So after a rebuild it works well. Fires up always on first crank.

If the immob was causing it, it should turn over but refuse to start, if it doesn't throw the engine immob light.
If it throws the engine immob light, it will not turn over. From the land of the most expensive land rover defenders on planet earth. At �125k for a XS 110 csw and you get to own it only for 10yrs! Please find me a good reason to stay on this island.
Post #221394 23rd Mar 2013 3:26pm
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borderterrier



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It's LRA that should be embarrassed!
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Happyoldgit



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achuakh wrote:
I had this happened to me and there are times it doesn't start and times it starts perfectly. Took me a few months to figure it out.

My starter innards were wearing out. So after a rebuild it works well. Fires up always on first crank.

If the immob was causing it, it should turn over but refuse to start, if it doesn't throw the engine immob light.
If it throws the engine immob light, it will not turn over.


For Gawds sake don't complicate it with talk of wearing starters, Caterham will be waking up in the night in a cold sweat all of a worry Laughing Steve.
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Caterham



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if only MOG.

I have a feeling I won't be sleeping tonight Shocked
Big Cry

there's been times in the past were I thought I'd simply let go of the ignition prematurely and it hadn't started....but now I wonder.........if...... Big Cry


picked up my new bonnet release cable yesterday (after muppets broke it I'm gonna fix it - but what a stupid design - the cable comes complete with release lever. my lever is fine and was hoping to swap just the cable but it looks like trying to remove cable from lever will result in the same little bit of plastic breaking again Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad )

off to check starter internals Sad
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bob neville



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This happened on the old 2009 110, the clue is in the next sentence Thumbs Up

First time it happened after about 18 months and the second a few months before I sold it.

Unlocked vehicle, would not start, no starter motor - zilch. Got out, went and got spares keys and it started first time. The first time it happened what I did not notice was the fact the indicators did not flash when I unlocked it got it yet ?

Batteries in the key fob had gone, the one I use everyday went first and a couple of weeks later the spare.
Changed batteries, did the key learn and all sorted until late last year and it did the same thing.

My guess is the fob would unlock the vehicle OK but due to low power and some electrical black magic the immobiliser did what it was built for.

Might be worth changing the fob batteries even if the dealer has done them recently, they are a 2 year service item but if you only take the vehicle in with one of the fobs that is all they can change.

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Caterham



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only ever use the one set of keys.
recently had its 2 yrs service and I'm pretty confident they wont have changed the battery (I might be wrong) but very much doubt they'll have done something useful and will have bust something instead that I'm yet to find Rolling Eyes

will keep my eyes peeled but I'm sure the lights do flash - even if the drivers door doesn't open....another little fix I need to find the time to do.

thanks Bob.
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bob neville



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I would put a new battery in regardless, only a couple of quid.

If it ever happens again you would have eliminated that as a potential problem Thumbs Up

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