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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677   
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http://www.westmercia.police.uk/application-forms.html
There you go Steve |
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6th Feb 2013 11:04pm |
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| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935  
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I, personally have no idea, but this link might be helpful.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28792  LANDYWATCH
Neighbourhood Watch for Land Rover Owners http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php |
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6th Feb 2013 11:10pm |
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| Nobby Member Since: 09 Aug 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 444  
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All the info and help is here, www.basc.org.uk. _______________________________
Puma Defender 90 |
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6th Feb 2013 11:38pm |
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| Delskinz Member Since: 18 May 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 84 
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You apply for the Section 1 license as if you were applying for a rifle but in the application write FAC shotgun instead, the process is the same. You need to give your reason why you need it over a standard shotgun plus references etc.
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6th Feb 2013 11:48pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Also speak not email to your assigned firearms rep at the issuing force, they can be a wealth of information
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7th Feb 2013 5:53am |
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| kingofthesparks Member Since: 06 Jan 2011 Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants Posts: 987 
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If you need any help then get on a forum called pigeon watch, very helpful info on there plus your usual forum trolls
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7th Feb 2013 8:29am |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1233 
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Stupid question, but why do you need a "FAC" category shotgun? You need to come up with some pretty good reasons to have one! You then need to find someone who is willing to sell one to you.
Basically, you have a "Firearms Certificate" for the obvious and a "Shotgun Certificate" also for the obvious. If you want both you can apply for them to be renewed at the same time to help you forgetting one or the other. This is a "Cotorminous Certificate". However, If you want a shotgun that is designed to be 'rifled' or can hold more cartridges in a 'magazine' then this is out of the scope of a standard shotgun certificate, but does not necessarily fit within that of a "Firearm Certificate". As it is classed as more 'dangerous' than a standard shotgun you have to apply using a Firearms Certificate Form. We have the  from the Hungerford massacre to thank for this... and lately the one in Cumbria.
The Firearms Application form is a lot more onerous and you will have to give permission for checks to be done via your doctor. Also, Landowners permission, different category of witness, etc... I may not be a 100% accurate as different areas have different views and opinions. Which are are you in? I would speak to the inspector who granted you your SGC. |
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7th Feb 2013 11:40am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17876 
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I think that you also need a FAC to use solid (rifled) slugs in a smooth-bore shotgun... though I am not really sure why you'd want to do this in the UK. The FAC application form is used for various guns which don't readily fit into other categories, for example veterinary dart guns, which are large-bore compressed gas guns firing a projectile which amounts to a syringe, but they fall under the restrictions due to the high muzzle energy. Most of the questions on the form are irrelevant, but the form and process still has to be used. |
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7th Feb 2013 12:11pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1233
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Very true, too
Unless you really need it, and you will certainly be asked why you do. It's not worth applying as if you get rejected it will be flagged up in the future. Everything you do like this ends up in one big data storage centre in Mid-Wales for future reference......if you know what I mean !!! |
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7th Feb 2013 12:28pm |
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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044 
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Its a section 10 that you need to have for a shotgun with a capacity of more than three cartridges. As suggested speak to you local Firearms officer, they will put you straight. (or a rifled barrel with solid slugs, but not sure you'd get that , or have a use for it!)
There are several who have these at my local gun club, I believe that vermin clearance is a valid reason to own one. One guy at the club has one of those Russion made Saiga multishots that look like an ak47 with a big magazine below - scary looking stuff  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12 Not quite sure why anyone would want one of those but each to there own. A nice multishot auto would be ideal.
Good luck with that, shouldn't be a problem as you have the land and most likely justification for ownership. DJ 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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7th Feb 2013 12:39pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Very true, although they do vary a bit I found it's always worth spending some time building a good relationship with these guys Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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7th Feb 2013 12:57pm |
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| Nick T Member Since: 29 May 2011 Location: Bolton Posts: 203 
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Don't let people put you off applying for your needs. Speak to your local Firearms division-they are the ones who know what they are talking about.
If they are anything like the guys at Openshaw-you will be impressed by the way your application is conducted. |
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8th Feb 2013 3:34am |
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