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ajctraveler

Member Since: 08 Oct 2012
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 97

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey

Is this only a major problem in England and the UK?

I can't help but be bothered by the frequency with which people seem to pick up used Defenders for free in these parts.

My question is whether Defenders are prime targets only here in England or if it's something that happens on continental Europe and the rest of the world as well? From the sound of things I would assume that there are some specialist thieves here who have a ton of experience with Defenders, which I can't imagine is the case anywhere else in the world. What are your all's thoughts?

Either way, once my 110 is finished being built I'm out of the UK like a bullet.

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20th Nov 2012 9:13am

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: RegiÃ³n Metropolitana
Posts: 2109

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

At least not in Chile. I remember only one defender stolen in almost 5 years.
Probably because here are not quite common and the bulglars dont like to be the center of attraction.

cheeer! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
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20th Nov 2012 12:06pm

udderlyoffroad

Member Since: 18 Jul 2011
Location: Bristol
Posts: 124

Sorry, but I hereby accuse you of rose-tinted spectacles syndrome. In the nicest possible way.

Crime, especially car crime, happens everywhere. Even in countries with higher living standards / lower crime rate /lower perceived crime rates like, say, Switzerland or Norway, just to pick an example. It’s just people choose to not see it, especially when they are visiting these places on holiday, or more seriously, doing research on possible destinations to emigrate to.

True, in general the Defender is less of a target because of its comparative rarity and shall we say niche desirability. The relative ease with which one can steal said vehicle is almost irrelevant.

IMHO, the perceived nickability of Defender is not a reason to make me want to emigrate* or otherwise travel. Frankly, now that even ‘Countryfile’ is running stories on how easy it is to steal a Defender, anyone who doesn’t take multiple precautions is, basically, asking to be made a target. That’s not to say that is right, or that they deserve it, but that’s the reality of the situation.

*There are plenty of others: Lack of freedom of speech, lack of space, work/life balance, lack of spaces in which to actually use my truck, inability to defend oneself from intruders, taxes not remotely based ones ability to pay (council, BBC)…. Real trucks don't have spark plugs

20th Nov 2012 1:58pm

davew

Member Since: 02 Jan 2012
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 888

1990 Defender 90 V8 Petrol PU Auto Rioja Red

I've never seen any figures myself but it would be really interesting to know what the percentage of thefts is rather than just the hard numbers. There are so many Defenders on the road, due to their life span as much as anything, it makes me wonder how many thefts occur as a percentage of the number of vehicles on the road.

On the list that was published recently nearly all the other vehicles on the list were high end luxury vehicles and I doubt very much that there are anywhere near the number of those on the road as there are Defenders because most of them have a relatively short life span.

Not that there is any reason to be complacent, it's that life span that makes Defenders so desirable to the scum in the first place - a large, ready market for second hand parts. Anything you can do to make life difficult for them is worth doing. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

20th Nov 2012 2:17pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I live in Switzerland, in the greater Geneva area, and even if Defender theft indeed is absolutely rare or non existant here, my car tonight is parked with the below standard gear which some say is overkill, but I say..... better safe than sorry

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20th Nov 2012 7:08pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3618

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

they will still nick that gear stick! it would pay for a return trip to the uk and a good hotel DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

20th Nov 2012 7:23pm

john adam

Member Since: 01 Sep 2010
Location: Paris
Posts: 77

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green

My1989 defender 90 was stolen in Paris in july 2003. It was not in good shape. However judging from the numer of defenders parked in the street at nigth, it is not a major issue here.
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1989 Ninety stolen in Paris
2004 90 TD5 gone
2010 110 S Puma TDCI running

20th Nov 2012 10:00pm

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