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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6676  
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WRONG If the other 'car' is a brick wall !  |
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6th Nov 2012 9:39pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Does a winch crumple? I might suggest it to the wife as a safety feature along with the roll bar
@megatoad - sorry about your war wounds but I don't think that would put me off either  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Nov 2012 10:06pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Modern cars are designed with crumple zones so that the vehicle structure is sacrificed in order to absorb energy that is likely to otherwise be transferred to the driver and passenger. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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7th Nov 2012 9:28am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16858 
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In a minor accident with a "normal" vehicle as the other participant a Defender is an OK place to be, because the other vehicle will absorb most of the energy.
In a severe high energy accident, a rollover, a side impact, or an accident involving another Defender, an HGV, or a solid object such as a building or tree, then a Defender is a very bad place indeed to be and you are likely to suffer a much greater degree of injury than you would if you were in most other vehicles. Sadly the Defender only provides very rudimentary levels of occupant protection, probably to about the level everyone else left behind in the 1970s (ie a plastic fascia with relatively few sharp edges, a little padding on the steering wheel, a slightly collapsible steering column, and basic seat belts). The best bet is to drive defensively and avoid accidents wherever possible. |
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7th Nov 2012 10:37am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19535
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Which is a general rule of thumb I'd have thought everyone should go by what ever they drive. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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7th Nov 2012 11:33am |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195 
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Country road 60 Mph Cross roads van pulls out OOOPS !!!
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge My winch was heading for the drivers door, knowing this was not going to be healthy for the driver i swerved and pilled into his front wheel. It has pushed the engine and gearbox across the van, the box has dented the n/s wing from the inside out. Result dead van. My 90 the n/s front wheel had hit the bulkhead and the door would not open, smashed hub, radius arm punched through the chassis mount. Bent steering wheel and broken dash where my knuckels hit it, 90 rebuilt by insurance was back on the road in under 2 weeks good old NFU. Vito driver very brown trousers and probably did not stop shaking for days. Me very very sore hands where steering wheel bent and i hit the dash. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough. Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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7th Nov 2012 11:15pm |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195
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And yes for the very sharp eyed among you, yes that is still the same stainless a bar on my 57 puma and my 12 plate puma its done some miles that. The spots went rusty new ones now, as did the winch. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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7th Nov 2012 11:20pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565
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13 tonne truck hit the back of my defender. I drove it to get its new tow bar and cross member. The lorry had to towed away all the brakes were damaged and the radiator was smashed to bits.
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8th Nov 2012 8:39pm |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405 
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Can you buy airbag kits for Defenders? If so, details please! Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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10th Nov 2012 8:17pm |
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| Landyphil Member Since: 23 Jul 2012 Location: Lake District Posts: 87 
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Whiplash can be a terrible thing but I'd choose it over full time harp playing.
In general it would seem that if you don't hit the inside of the vehicle and the inside of the vehicle doesn't come to hit you then things look painful but favourable. A caged up defender with bucket seats and harnesses is quite a place to be. Airbags are a lovely cushion...but that's by the by of the vehicle you're in has crumpled to soften the blow and the engine is now passing through your left leg. And by engine I mean the one in the vehicle you hit! If airbags and crumple zones are so effective why are they not used in motorsport and lots of strength (caging) and seats and harnesses is? The simple answer is that it's a compromise. Metalwork doen properly makes it safer but ruins internal space so manufacturers have to think of something to help..... 90XS Tdci John Eales 110 CSW G4 Edition 88" Series 3 Racer |
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10th Nov 2012 9:06pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2155 
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No airbags , no lapbelts , no crumple zones , no side protection , lapbelts , ladder chassis , all the things that the Bloody EU say NO to . This is why our 65yr old world icon is coming to an end . It cannot possibly be produced any more to tick the boxes of the EU regs . Mr Tata is gonna have a big smile on his face when he waves Tata to our beloved defender , thank f##k he will be saying . Its finished , all over , kapoot , no more . May you rest in peace old friend . |
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10th Nov 2012 11:37pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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That's an interesting thought and one I'd not considered before. Certainly, air bags would be useless in something like BTCC with all the bumping and barging that goes on - but conversely might improve driving standards! The only place I could think they are used in motorsport is on motorcycles - certainly in MotoGP - but nowhere in four-wheeled events. |
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11th Nov 2012 9:27am |
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| jerseyman Member Since: 21 Jul 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 279 |
I would assume that it is because air bags are simply not needed, the guys are strapped in so tightly that they almost become part of the car, if you cannot be knocked forward or sideways then you the air bags aren't a lot of use?
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11th Nov 2012 12:30pm |
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| Landyphil Member Since: 23 Jul 2012 Location: Lake District Posts: 87
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Exactly.
But there's no point being harnessed in or indeed having airbags if the car folds up and while modern motors are great at absorbing the impact there comes a point..... 90XS Tdci John Eales 110 CSW G4 Edition 88" Series 3 Racer |
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11th Nov 2012 5:41pm |
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