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Glynparry25



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British army have/ still use the XZLs..... along with 265/75/16 Cooper STTs and BFG 28/75/16.

The XZLs go on completely bog standard Defenders (not partuiculary strong- I know from personal experience).
The 265 STTs go on the more modified- SNATCH and WMIK.
The 285 BFGs go on gun tractors and vehicles that need the most traction.


As I mentioned above lots of people go straight for 750/16 tires, this is purely because 10 years ago you wouldn't be able to get anything else than that size in Africa. As always with Land Rover 'It works for the guys in the series 1, 60 years ago on the first overland so it will work for me'........... But it is way better to move with the times and get the best the world has to offer Thumbs Up

Glyn Dog Sheep
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Steve B



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Glynparry25 wrote:
British army have/ still use the XZLs..... along with 265/75/16 Cooper STTs and BFG 28/75/16.

The XZLs go on completely bog standard Defenders (not partuiculary strong- I know from personal experience).
The 265 STTs go on the more modified- SNATCH and WMIK.
The 285 BFGs go on gun tractors and vehicles that need the most traction.


As I mentioned above lots of people go straight for 750/16 tires, this is purely because 10 years ago you wouldn't be able to get anything else than that size in Africa. As always with Land Rover 'It works for the guys in the series 1, 60 years ago on the first overland so it will work for me'........... But it is way better to move with the times and get the best the world has to offer Thumbs Up

Glyn Dog Sheep


Completely agree with Glyn,

I have 7.5 x 16 XZL on my Defender, chose to fit these after some research for this very question.

I would choose a tyre most suitable for the places you wish to travel, maybe the XZL was the best allrounder in the past but definitely not now.

I would choose an All Terrain Tyre now. We recently had a Landrover in Africa and it had on it what looked like Michelin 7.5 x 16 road tyres, I was really scepticle but wow they were brilliant nice on the road and got us through some really deep sand. The 7.5 x 16 is a good size no problem there but the tread I would choose carefully.

Another point on my XZL's, in the snow on tarmac last year they were lethal.

My travelling in my Defender unless I win the lotter will allways be in Europe so my next tyre choice would be and all terrain 265/75

Steve 
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drive4change



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I was originally thinking of a BFG it seemed to me that many overlanders were using them. I will be carrying a minimum of two spares but would rather they stayed spare lol Has anyone had any strength issues with the BFG AT?
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spudfan



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Glynparry25 wrote"But it is way better to move with the times and get the best the world has to offer "
Like the Puma. Thumbs Up 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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leeds



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drive4change wrote:


..... I will be carrying a minimum of two spares but would rather they stayed spare lol .....



Where are you planning on going that you will need more then two spares?


My experience whilst travelling is that you get more punctures in towns, normally from things like roofing screws!

Once got a roofing screw through corner of side wall which legally is irrepairable. So had to get a replacement tyre in from 2,400 miles away! Took a week to arrive so I just pottered around the local area for a week.


The philsophy when you get a puncture is to repair the puncture and preserve your spare tyres. Otherwiise you run the risk of having to repair two or three tyres!

Get yourself a good deflator, compressor and repair kit.

Also remember you need two mean of undoing wheel nuts, two means of jacking the vehicle and do not forget the folding axle stand.


Brendan


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drive4change



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In your opinion is a Warn Powerplant a good compromise as a Winch / compressor / deflator in one?
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leeds



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Normally I dislike things which are made to do several functions, however that is one of my endearing foibles Razz


Have not used the Warn Powerplant but we have Warn winches on our vehicles.

The Warn Powerplant specification are

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POWERPLANT HD SPECS/PART NUMBER
Part Number: 71801 (12V)
Rated Line Pull: 12,000 lbs. (5440 kgs) single-line
Motor: Gen ll Series Wound 4.6 hp 12V, with Thermal Protection Shutoff Switch
Electrical controls: Contactor
Remote Control: Remote switch with Thermometric LED and 12 in (3.7m) lead
Geartrain: 3-stage planetary
Gear ratio: 216:1
Clutch (freespooling): Sliding ring gear
Brake: Integrated direct-drive cone brake
Wire rope: 80 ft of 3/8 in (24m of 9.5mm diam.)
Fairlead: Roller
Recommended battery: 650 CCA minimum
Battery leads: 2 gauge, 72 in (1.83m)
Finish: High-gloss black powdercoat
Drum diameter/Length: 2.5 in /9 in (6.4cm/23cm)
Weight: 115 lbs (52 kgs)
Air Reservoir: 1/2 gallon with Integrated Air Intercooler
High Air Flow Rating: 12 CFM @ 0 psi, 5 CFM @ 90 psi
Max Air Pressure: 100 psi
Air Pressure Switch: Yes
Air Hose: 12 ft nylon, with quick-disconnect. Brass air fittings and couplings



Now that high pressure flowrate is good Thumbs Up

Downside is length of hose at 12' but that is easily extended which you would need for a 130

Retail price is £1908


The smaller one

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Part Number: 71800 (12V)
Rated Line Pull: 9,500 lbs. (4310 kgs) single-line
Motor: Gen ll Series Wound 4.6 hp 12V, with Thermal Protection Shutoff Switch
Electrical controls: Contactor
Remote Control: Remote switch with Thermometric
Geartrain: 3-stage planetary
Gear ratio: 156:1
Clutch (freespooling): Sliding ring gear
Brake: Integrated direct-drive cone brake
Wire rope: 125 ft of 5/16 in (38m of 8mm diam.)
Fairlead: Roller
Recommended battery: 650 CCA minimum
Battery leads: 2 gauge, 72 in (1.83m)
Finish: High-gloss black powdercoat
Drum diameter/Length: 2.5 in/9 in (6.4cm/23cm)
Weight: 100 lbs (45 kgs)
Air Reservoir: 1/2 gallon tank with
High Air Flow Rating:: 12 CFM @ 0 psi, 5 CFM @ 90 psi
Max Air Pressure: 100 psi
Air Pressure Switch: Yes
Air Hose: 12 in nylon, with quick-disconnect. Brass air fittings and couplings



Looks like the same good compressor Thumbs Up


125' of wire is better Thumbs Up

Retail price is £1817


We can supply either of those Warn winches. When you decide which winch etc you want give us a bell and will see what price we can do them for.



Brendan
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wslr



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Most areas you are going in Africa, you'll find any small village will have a bloke who can fix tyres, provided they are tubed. Tubeless would be a problem unless you learn to fix them yourself.

Also steel wheels help as you can smack them back into shape whereas alloys will probably crack.

2 spares a good idea. I always carried 2 even out on local journeys. The Firestone factory out near Nairobi's JK airport was still producing the 205/16 Town and Country which was ideal as a tubed 4x4 tyre, and even some of the locals used these to rally with as they were cheap and reliable.

My brother did the Cape Town trip a few years ago using the KL71 tyres, which were good except that they couldn't locate replacements easily and even considered asking me to send a set out to Nakuru.

If you take the tubeless route, I'd personally be using some Tyre Seal. Unless you get creative, most of the trip will be tracks/tarmac and this stuff is pretty good. It will seal a 9mm round shot into it provided you are moving, so acacia tree thorns are no issue.

Also, on this note, some of these areas are risk areas. You may be forced off the road or even have stinger type tyre deflation (locally made so it probably won't work) put out in front of you, so having the ability to get past this fast which the Tyre Seal will allow. Bonus is that you can wash this out of the tyre as it stays a liquid inside the tyre under normal conditions. Good stuff which is cheap and it sells well as a result. However, as you are in a 200tdi 130, fast may not be an option. Laughing
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However, as you are in a 200tdi 130, fast may not be an option. Laughing


Thanks for that Richard Rolling with laughter

Of course, a voodoo exhaust system would definitely help Whistle Bow down

Steve
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Go Beyond



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I personally wouldn't have a Warn dual winch thing up front, too heavy, possibly wipes out the whole lot in a front end bump, too nickable, too expensive

There are plenty of good quality portable compressors on the market to choose from, cheaper, lighter, can be used on other vehicles without having to move your vehicle ....
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drive4change



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That was a school of thought Matt. We have plenty of space in the rear to be able to carry a portable compressor if that is a better way to go. Thumbs Up
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Only my opinion ....

If not portable, take a look at the range on Matt Savages site of fitted compressor set ups ...
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All opinions much appreciated Thumbs Up
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drive4change wrote:
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However, as you are in a 200tdi 130, fast may not be an option. Laughing


Thanks for that Richard Rolling with laughter

Of course, a voodoo exhaust system would definitely help Whistle Bow down

Steve


Yea, noise is something which you tend to get a response out of people, certainly in East Africa. Thumbs Up

I think the Voodoo system is a certainty, but perhaps run it down here when you have done the work on the truck and it can be built then. No point copying the original as you can't make any improvements except with the materials used.
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Sounds great Thumbs Up
The new galvanised chassis being donated to us by Marsland Chassis UK will be arriving in 2 to 3 weeks. At which point we hope to be able to get some real time dedicated to rebuilding. Very Happy
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