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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903   
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-LAND-ROVER-...6rk%3D3%26
Is it just me or are there a few little alarm bells ringing with this one? Apparently a 2004, but the reg matches up with a 2011... Also the steering wheel, no headlight height adjustment don't seem to right for a station wagon? Even if it was rebuilt would it not come back as a 2004 model still? |
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26th Jul 2012 10:11pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10363 
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Definitely
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26th Jul 2012 10:17pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240 
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It's a nice colour
 Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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26th Jul 2012 10:25pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2876
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Very nice airtop
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26th Jul 2012 10:29pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2876
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Very nice airtop
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26th Jul 2012 10:29pm |
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| Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169 
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Don't see why it needs to have been stolen or dodgy. Dont understand the OPs comment re matching a 2011 reg - what am i missing??
Lots of people re-furb/Rebuild older vehicles with newer parts like that. Me included, but mine is a 300tdi rebult with td5 bits and bobs...... If it is genuinely a rebuild on a shot blasted and glalved original chassis then it looks a nice job to me, although I wouldn't have replaced a td5 with a tdci - everyone knows the td5 is a better engine! Our blog - http://landytravels.com/ Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net |
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26th Jul 2012 11:50pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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It mentions on the listing a few times that it's a 2004, yet on the auto-filled bits of the listing (the bits that eBay fills in automatically when you put in the reg no.) say its a 2011, as does the DVLA.
Even if it was rebuilt with a TDCi engine and all the other bits, surely it'd still be a 2004 model? If I put a new chassis, gearbox and 2.2 Puma engine in mine it'd still be a 2009. I could be wrong but if it was a 2004 model, and bought as a write off and re-built using newer bits would it not be on a Q plate? And if it was I wasn't aware that you could put a private plate on a Q plate vehicle. I could be wrong though. |
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27th Jul 2012 12:27am |
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| Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169
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The eBay spec list also shows the mot to expire 2012 though, which it wouldn't if it was new in 2011.......
As it is ex-military it could possibly be that it was first registered with dvla in 2011, after it came into civilian ownership, but built in 2004 as stated by the owner. Our blog - http://landytravels.com/ Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net |
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27th Jul 2012 12:59am |
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| dnorrishill Member Since: 15 Jul 2011 Location: Hampshire Posts: 612 
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The point I was making is that even if the chassis and running gear are from 2004, the rest of the vehicle is not. All the body work, interior, bulkhead, dash, doors, engine, electrics, etc. are from a puma.
Can you imagine how much work and how expensive that would be? To buy all those parts would cost a fortune. I guess they could be salvage parts from written off vehicles, but again that would take a lot of time, effort and money. Also let's face it, it's an eBay seller with only 2 previous sales; would you really part with over £10k for that vehicle? |
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27th Jul 2012 7:13am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10363
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In a nutshell....I wouldn't buy it, someone's gone to great lengths and expense to build that, or great lengths and no expense. I wouldn't risk it.
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27th Jul 2012 7:32am |
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| Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169
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Not the sort of thing you'd necessarily want to buy unseen on an auction site, I'd agree, but if it were in Autotrader or some such, and you could go see it, look at the paperwork, have time to check it out, quality of workmanship, receipts, etc., then I don't see why it wouldn't be a good buy. You'd be getting a lot of vehicle, which would last a few more years than a non-rebuilt 2004, for lost less money than a genuine 2011.
For me what is odd, is more that someone would take all the time and trouble to do such a rebuild and then not keep it and enjoy it themselves. You can never really get back the money that you put into rebuilds, unless you are exceedingly lucky! With mine, after 2 post-factory rebuilds there is little left of the original vehicle, but it has all been done legally. Spend wise we are probably looking at 18-20K all told (spread over 11 years) but as a 1998 reg vehicle there is no way I'd expect to get that if I sold it. But that is irrelevant as we built mine as a 'keeper'. Having said that, if we ended up with money issues and it would have to be sold, that would be different. Hopefully that won't happen! Our blog - http://landytravels.com/ Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net |
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27th Jul 2012 8:32am |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6676
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I agree with Pam, people spend far more than they are ever likely to get back on there vehicles (including most of us) especially if they perceive them as being 'keepers'
The 'reasurring' part about this vehicle is that it is on a galvanised chassis - you dont steal a vehicle and put an older VIN on and then just for good measure stick a new chassis on it |
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27th Jul 2012 9:40am |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 
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it seems to have a lot of tdci parts
bulkhead doors bonnet wings rear tub at least. having been down the road of collecting td5 parts for a rebuild it isn't that cost effective as the parts are either damaged and need repairing or nicked so he's either spent rather alot more than a puma 110 would cost to buy or it's hooky? although it has his business phone number on the back door plus a tyre related reg. If it was bent then would you advertise the fact? |
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27th Jul 2012 10:21am |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6676
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I would imagine that 'being in the trade' a Puma 110 with a twisted chassis has come his way for not very much money ....
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27th Jul 2012 10:24am |
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