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LandRoverAnorak



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New Tyre Labelling
Looks like new tyres are going to be labelled to tells us how they perform in the wet or affect fuel economy: FROM BBC NEWS

I wonder how the average MT will fair? Laughing Darren

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So you go in to your local fitter and choose the tyre by the label Rolling with laughter

Really come on most choose by price or looks Rolling with laughter
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I guess that's the problem - most people haven't a clue. Darren

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Most tyre fitters have not got a clue either I have constant battles with miss matched tyres wrong load index speed ratings mis matched tread patterns etc etc
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My local tyre fitters are very very good IMHO despite being in the local "rough" area but I bet 90% just buy the cheapest as to most a tyre is a tyre Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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This has POPPED UP ON THE BBC again today as the regulations are now in force. The article is making much of the 'better tyres saves lives' angle and I wonder how that will translate into insurance? If a Defender, for example, comes out of the factory with tyres rated 'B' for braking in the wet but we want MT tyres with a rating of 'E' or whatever, it wouldn't surprise me if insurers use that as an excuse for a hike in premiums.

On an ordinary car, as long as a replacement tyre has the appropriate load and speed rating then nobody really takes much notice of what's fitted. By giving them ratings as described though, insurers (and Police, I guess, in the event of a serious accident), have another stick to beat people with. Darren

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Andy at AJS loves The new Label regs Rolling with laughter
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Higher premium is just another running cost Sad

What if tyres & wheels are switched around for terrain? You would need all-tyre clauses. Etc.

4 x 4s have better engine braking & traction. Why don't we get discounts for those safer features on Defenders? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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BigWheels wrote:


4 x 4s have better engine braking & traction. Why don't we get discounts for those safer features on Defenders?

Yes, and the fact they don't do 0 - 60 in about 6 seconds or 120 down the Motorway. Well most don't anyway. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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[quote="custom90steve"]
BigWheels wrote:
.....the fact they don't do 0 - 60 in about 6 seconds or 120 down the Motorway. Well most don't anyway.


i did 120 in mine today, well KMs anyway.

seriously though can anyone imagine doing 120mph in a Defender? BM52
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[quote="bm52"]
custom90steve wrote:
BigWheels wrote:
.....the fact they don't do 0 - 60 in about 6 seconds or 120 down the Motorway. Well most don't anyway.


i did 120 in mine today, well KMs anyway.

seriously though can anyone imagine doing 120mph in a Defender?


Errmm, yeap.
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About time it was introduced, too:

We can now easily see that the Toyo XYZ is A rated for braking, B rated for rolling resistance/economy, B rated for noise and costs sixty quid.

The Hing-Kong-Ko Alpha is D rated for braking, D rated for economy and D rated for noise but is only fifty.

But although the Michelin 123 is A rated for braking, A rated for rolling resistance, and A rated for noise it costs ninety.

No Theyre all the same so Ill buy the cheapest or Michelins save you money advertising hype, the customer can in future make a comparison and choose the most appropriate.

As for handling etc., all pretty subjective, everyone has their favourite...

Peter
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bm52 wrote:

seriously though can anyone imagine doing 120mph in a Defender?


Done 110 mph once or twice in mine Whistle Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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If you choose winter tyre according to the new labeling system youre bound to get into trouble. The tyre pushers in Norway have created their own label system for winter tires to help consumers in making the right choice.

The label system is fine for summer tires, but completed f**ked up for winter tires manufactured for real winter conditions. 2009 Land Rover Defender 90 SVX Soft top 60th Anniversary Edition
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