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ZeDefender



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I was wondering if heat build-up in the cat was the problem but it sounds as though the intercooler is indeed the culprit.

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ZeDefender wrote:
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p.s. does it really happen as low as 30 degrees with you?


Yes, if the outside temp is anything close to 26degC and above, I've noticed that my manifold temp goes into the 34-37degC according to my Ultra-Gauge. And as soon as the inlet temp reaches 32 and above my power dissapear.....
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the funny thing is, it only happens to some Defenders and not others. Why? --
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That's why I questioned the RAI design to start with - I never had a problem last year before the RAI was fitted Confused

Naks - does yours do it? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Naks



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ZeDefender wrote:
That's why I questioned the RAI design to start with - I never had a problem last year before the RAI was fitted Confused

Naks - does yours do it?



Nope, mine has had a Mantec RAI since day 1 and has never had a power loss, even with BAS remap in 40C Cape Town summer weather. --
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Naks wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:
That's why I questioned the RAI design to start with - I never had a problem last year before the RAI was fitted Confused

Naks - does yours do it?



Nope, mine has had a Mantec RAI since day 1 and has never had a power loss, even with BAS remap in 40C Cape Town summer weather.


But I have the Mantec RAI and mine does it???

Might it have anything to do with higher temps in combination with altitude? But then again some of the people that had the problem lived in Durban......? And I gues Germany is not the worlds highest country Question
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ZeDefender



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We're 700m above sea level in Bavaria which seems to affect the number of eggs you need to made decent Yorkshire pudding - not sure if that's relevant Laughing

p.s. Think it's about 2% reduction in air density c.f. sea level
p.p.s. Just checked and the difference in air density at 1000m between 22 degrees and 37 degrees is 6% - suppose that could be quite relevant for a vehicle that is struggling already... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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ZeDefender wrote:
We're 700m above sea level in Bavaria which seems to affect the number of eggs you need to made decent Yorkshire pudding - not sure if that's relevant Laughing

p.s. Think it's about 2% difference in air density c.f. sea level...


Rolling with laughter

I am at 1400m ASL. But like I mentioned, there are some okes in Durban (sea level, you know......there where the 'Boks wipped your team 2 weeks ago Whistle ) who also had the same issue.
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Rolling Eyes

Interested whether guys e.g. 1000m ASL don't have this problem...

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ZeDefender wrote:
How high up are you Naks?


Right now, not as high as I would like. Stuffy nose, shivers, coughing up half a lung, throat on fire Sad

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Take care Naks

In our case the problem is not related with high altitudes.
at 400 m or at the sea level the problem appears to be the same.

Im following this thread with interest Thumbs Up Eduardo

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1800 masl 32°C, uphill and fine. Now if I would to apply FT then coolant temp goes over 105°C and more, easily. The only way to solve it is by going down gear (faster fan and water circulation). Sure you cannot do that on the autobahn. Puma 110" SW

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Perhaps it could be something built into the powertrain software version on your vehicles? Perhaps an update and having a remap built on top of it again would solve it?
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wslr wrote:
Perhaps it could be something built into the powertrain software version on your vehicles? Perhaps an update and having a remap built on top of it again would solve it?


Nope, remap doesn't solve it.
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