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dnorrishill



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Hardtop conversion or save up for a Station Wagon?
Right here's the thing - I have had my 2003 TD5 90 hardtop for nearly 18 months now and love it, but it's a little "basic" for the children; which is self defeating as it was bought so that we could all pile into it and do family stuff.

So I have 2 options:

1. Get someone (as I really don't have the time) to do a decent station wagon conversion, or
2. Save up for a Puma station wagon (or possibly a TD5 SW)

For option 1 does anyone have any recommendations on who could do the conversion (full bulkhead removal, windows and as much sound proofing/trim as possible to reduce noise)? I already have a couple of inward facing Exmoor Trim seats.

Thanks in advance.
Post #134831 27th Mar 2012 6:28pm
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custom90



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On mine I have inward facing Exmoors with rear windows in. head lining ect. Really good IMHO but maybe better to get two forward facing seats instead for your purpose. Do you have to have the bulhead removed? Thumbs Up
Post #134833 27th Mar 2012 6:38pm
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dnorrishill



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I don't have to have the bulkhead removed, but I am 6'2" and while I have driven many series and Defender trucks over the years, it would give me a little extra leg room.
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dnorrishill wrote:
I don't have to have the bulkhead removed, but I am 6'2" and while I have driven many series and Defender trucks over the years, it would give me a little extra leg room.

That's true. Although maybe mud rails with the height added alone might make the difference. Only reson I'm mentioning this is that the bulkhead is good at seperating front to back especially cargo / shopping ect.
Post #134836 27th Mar 2012 6:49pm
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if your handy with the tools mate you could do it all yourself Thumbs Up im in the progress of turning mine from a county to a hardtop van basically removing the side windows thats it so if you need some genuine county sw windows i have them here no rust very good price Thumbs Up
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Killer90 wrote:
if your handy with the tools mate you could do it all yourself Thumbs Up im in the progress of turning mine from a county to a hardtop van basically removing the side windows thats it so if you need some genuine county sw windows i have them here no rust very good price Thumbs Up

How exactly are you doing this? How much you managed so far? Cool
Post #134843 27th Mar 2012 7:13pm
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I converted my hard top to a (kind of) SW a few years back. i never bothered with the seats, but fitted the windows and removed the top of the bulkhead with one of the "U" shaped removal bars... it made the seat tip back that little bit extra to help a lot (i'm 6'5")

I've got a picture with the exact dimensions on it for the windows if you decide to cut yours out, although sounds like you've got a deal with killer to swap the panels over Thumbs Up
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dnorrishill



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Thanks for the replys.

Like I said I am really pushed for time at the moment and I could do the conversion I just don't know when!!

I had a really helpful conversation with Berkshire Landrover who have given me a quote, but I have seen a few negative comments about them.

I also spoke to Landroversuk but their workshop is so busy they won't even put me on the waiting list or give me a quote.


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Post #134863 27th Mar 2012 8:03pm
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instead of lifting the roof off and new sides i have access Wink Wink to some panels from work, basically i remove the windows drill the rivets out and place the new side over the top drill the new side and rivet them on once painted i started to drill out the windows yesterday then took them out after work today and malcom the engineer ( top guy ) meausred it all up and drilled the new panels i then put my windows back in only with a couple of rivets for now whilst the panels get sprayed so hopefully by the weekend it will be done if not tuesday next week Thumbs Up
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if you do convert it to a CSW, you will need to tell the insurance company and change the number of seats on the v50 document.

sides do come up on the forum and on the bay, it's not a difficult mod to make and you can pick up side facing or forward facing seats easily enough, however with children in the back you won't have much more space, have you considered changing up to a 110 ?
Post #134867 27th Mar 2012 8:09pm
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dnorrishill



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The number of seats is blank on the V5, but yes the insurance co will have to be told - which could be a vote in favour of buying a SW and not modding a hardtop - unfortunately general insurers don't like "modified" vehicles, even if they end up being essentially the samething as a production model.

Also considered a 110 and a S2 disco but both of those got vetoed by HRH Big Cry Too big and too ugly apparently Shocked
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dnorrishill wrote:
Also considered a 110 and a S2 disco but both of those got vetoed by HRH


have you considered remapping "HRH" or doing a p-ex Rolling with laughter

110's aren't that much bigger on the outside, just a case of getting used to it ... there's a D3 for sale on the forum .. and td5 utils are like hens teeth
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dnorrishill



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Basically what I want is an Puma XS 90, just can't afford (or justify one to HRH) Big Cry

Remapping hmmmm "the force is stronger with that one" and the cost of part-ex let's not got there I will be consigned to a Vauxhall corsa.
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I've no idea how much it would cost, but Keith Gotts in Alton would be more than capable of the work that you're thinking of. Give them a call and ask for an estimate. I suspect it would be cheaper to sell yours and buy a SW - these sorts of conversions only really make sense if you can do the work yourself. Darren

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Post #134897 27th Mar 2012 10:09pm
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dnorrishill



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Darren, top call I forgot about Keith Gott, will call them in the morning.
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