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TACK



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New zu/Mach 5 style wheels from 4x4 tyres.co.uk
Just seen these wheels, is the offset ok for 265/285 tyres?

Seams like a good price Thumbs Up Anyone brought these from 4x4 site yet?

http://www.4x4tyres.co.uk/challenger-wheels-p-1571.html
Post #123990 14th Feb 2012 9:53pm
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Spotted those a week or so ago and wondered the same thing.

I don't understand the offset thing, but I guess if you know what the offset is of your current wheels or the Land Rover standard , you can gauge what it will look like. Most LR alloys have an offset of 20 I think.

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Post #123999 14th Feb 2012 10:08pm
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Just had a quick look and will make the following observations.


Load Rating? TBC presumably means To be Confirmed??


For comparison purposes Zu rims are rated at 1.4 tonnes/rim and are made in the UK

[quote]
The only wheel available to the Land Rover market which has been rated at a massive 1.4 tons per rim and passed the stringent TUV test approval at this weight. Designed to give your Land Rover the maximum wheel track while still complying with British Mot standards, these rims eliminate the need of expensive wheel spacers which can put excess strain on ball joints. Where as in the past other rims were sold for "off road use only" these meet or exceed UK, European, US, Canadian, Australian, South African, Swiss and Japanese on road regulations and meet wheel manufacturing specifications so wont affect insurance policies.
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So where are those rims made? What load rating are they? What standards do they meet?




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Post #124012 14th Feb 2012 10:34pm
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How does it matter where they are made? Geographic location is a warranty for absolutely nothing Confused Scaling the real deal.
Post #124019 14th Feb 2012 10:50pm
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leeds



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Geographical location has been know to have severe quality control implications!

My main point however was lack of load rating and approval implications.


I for one would be unwilling to put rims on my vehicle without that sort of information as I consider good quality wheels and tyres as important safety features.


Brendan
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Re: offsets, the offset is the lateral distance between the flange of the hub and the centreline of the rim. A positive offset means the wheel ends up set inboard, like most LR alloys (Boosts are +33mm). A zero offset rim on a Defender would make the wheel stick out the arches quite a bit, assuming it was a sensible width.
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Is the max load stamped on the wheel. I phoned them today and they said each wheel has max load of 1950kg

Sounds high....... 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

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Leeds has a point. It has been mentioned by those in the trade on this forum that some of the alloy wheels sold are of dubious quality Shocked

I'd like some BFG KM2's on Dual Finish replica wheels but I'm not sure the quality would be great, needs checking, best to get oe stuff really Wink
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get proper Mach 5s in 8J they are steel
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mrandmrsh wrote:
Is the max load stamped on the wheel. I phoned them today and they said each wheel has max load of 1950kg

Sounds high.......


Sounds rediculously high! Blinds and Tx wheels have a much stronger configuration and are only rated at 1.4or 1.6 (can't quite remember).

As Brendan says- wheels and tyres are what connect your truck to the road so you don't want to fit cheapos and then find they fail.

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leeds wrote:

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... these rims eliminate the need of expensive wheel spacers which can put excess strain on ball joints. ...




I am not sure where this is a quote from (Zu website perhaps?) but someone's been smoking the crack pipe!

How can the use of wheel spacers possibly affect the "strain" (and clearly this word is also being used in a non-engineering sense) on ball joints?

There will be absolutely no difference in loading on any of the vehicle's supension and steering components whether you use a wheel with a spacer, or a wheel of the same width with the equivalent offset.

Totally agree with the comment about these rims though; unless the manufacturer can demonstrate that they are of good quality I wouldn't consider buying them, and I am certainly sceptical about the figure of 1950kg.
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Probally lbs Whistle
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they seem way too cheap to be any good .. when you think of the raw material cost, manufacturing, painting and finishing ...

ken wrote:
get proper ZUs


I agree Thumbs Up
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leeds wrote:
Geographical location has been know to have severe quality control implications!


So true! Rolling Eyes

They look like Matt Lees old design
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blackwolf wrote:


How can the use of wheel spacers possibly affect the "strain" (and clearly this word is also being used in a non-engineering sense) on ball joints?

There will be absolutely no difference in loading on any of the vehicle's supension and steering components whether you use a wheel with a spacer, or a wheel of the same width with the equivalent offset.


Erm, of course spacers will increase the "strain". If you use a 30mm spacer, then the mounting surface of the wheel is 30mm further out from the balljoint and king pins thus the "stress" increases. The only instance that would see you statement being correct is if the mounting surface of the wheels protruded further inward than the inside wall of the tyre.

I'll just return to my crackpipe now...

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